In reply to Post #14
may i ask what you do with the rats once killed in your?
i hope the answer is not chuck them in a nearby bush the smell in summer would be horrible
On the lake i fish, if there was a dead rat, the other rats would carry it off and prob eat it!
may i ask what you do with the rats once killed in your?
i hope the answer is not chuck them in a nearby bush the smell in summer would be horrible
On the lake i fish, if there was a dead rat, the other rats would carry it off and prob eat it!
I remember on my France holiday last year; I had 20kg of bait in a big airdry sack. Had been out in the sun all day, when it started to rain, so I quickly shoved it in the doorway of my brolly. I ended up leaving it there for the night. When I woke up, there was a couple of holes and a few boilies laying around. Was pi$$ed off, and took care what I touched. Was instantly paranoid about my bait, if had pi$$ed all over it etc. Wasn't until later on that I realised just how much bait it had nicked. Between my brolly and it's little route out of the reeds was the boat. Under the boat was about 2kg of boilies! It must have had a little chain going!! That was just under the boat, god knows how many he got back to the nest and ate!
But as angry as I was, it was my own fault. They have as much right to be there as us. If you invite them in, they are going to take up the opportunity! I think traps is a bit harsh really. Don't encourage them and then you wont have any problems.
But as angry as I was, it was my own fault. They have as much right to be there as us. If you invite them in, they are going to take up the opportunity! I think traps is a bit harsh really. Don't encourage them and then you wont have any problems.
You don't even have to be fishing to be at risk. I caught Weils at a Cornish lake when doing a photo shoot for a new Fox product that was being launched. I took the missus to do the pix while I did the product manipulation. This involved getting my hands wet in the margins for a few seconds. That's when I nearly lost my life.
Rats and mice spread Weils so anyone NOT taking precautions either is an idiot or he doesn't care about his life.
Rats and mice spread Weils so anyone NOT taking precautions either is an idiot or he doesn't care about his life.
In reply to Post #17
You were unfortunate. I've not heard of many instnces of veils in the west country. Don't suppose there is a water in the land that arat doesn't visit at some stage in a day. Was the particular lake known as a rat hot spot? I've fished numerous dayticket venues regularly around the West country and with the very odd exception seen very few rodents.
Scariest place I ever saw was Broadlnds. Hants should have sussed the problem as I had a wlk around, as numerus bivvies had improvised traps set. Did a couple of overnighters without much sleep.
How anyone could wash a pot or as you rightly say even handing fish briefly from the water was putting
yourself at risk.
This is what good forum is for. I'll agree take all the precautions you can.
You were unfortunate. I've not heard of many instnces of veils in the west country. Don't suppose there is a water in the land that arat doesn't visit at some stage in a day. Was the particular lake known as a rat hot spot? I've fished numerous dayticket venues regularly around the West country and with the very odd exception seen very few rodents.
Scariest place I ever saw was Broadlnds. Hants should have sussed the problem as I had a wlk around, as numerus bivvies had improvised traps set. Did a couple of overnighters without much sleep.
How anyone could wash a pot or as you rightly say even handing fish briefly from the water was putting
yourself at risk.
This is what good forum is for. I'll agree take all the precautions you can.
In reply to Post #18
I've not heard of many instnces of veils in the west country.
Well I can assure you they happen...the time I was in hospital a young farm hand came into my ward. He had Weils...He didn't make it.. A week after I came out a sewage worker with SWW dies of Weils. Ignore the risk at your peril...
I've not heard of many instnces of veils in the west country.
Well I can assure you they happen...the time I was in hospital a young farm hand came into my ward. He had Weils...He didn't make it.. A week after I came out a sewage worker with SWW dies of Weils. Ignore the risk at your peril...
In reply to Post #17
Rats and mice spread Weils so anyone NOT taking precautions either is an idiot or he doesn't care about his life.
It's the old `won't happen to me syndrome` Can't understand why people would want to ignore a very serious health risk by courting disaster in the way some do.
Rats and mice spread Weils so anyone NOT taking precautions either is an idiot or he doesn't care about his life.
It's the old `won't happen to me syndrome` Can't understand why people would want to ignore a very serious health risk by courting disaster in the way some do.
In reply to Post #20
sorry, wrong thing to say in the wrong place
sorry, wrong thing to say in the wrong place
In reply to Post #19
Three cases in one hospital in such a short space of time suggests it is definitly prevalent in the SW. There is normally only around 40-50 cases in the UK each year.
Chap I know had it, he was on deaths door and still isn't fully recovered a couple of years on.
Three cases in one hospital in such a short space of time suggests it is definitly prevalent in the SW. There is normally only around 40-50 cases in the UK each year.
Chap I know had it, he was on deaths door and still isn't fully recovered a couple of years on.
In reply to Post #22
Iv always rinsed my hands, face and pots and pans in lake water, nut as moving to a new lake next year think il stop that habit.
So what are the health tips then guys??
Iv always rinsed my hands, face and pots and pans in lake water, nut as moving to a new lake next year think il stop that habit.
So what are the health tips then guys??
In reply to Post #21
I hope I'm not into the swim after you. Your tactic may give you a clear night but the repercussions are
immense. Don't feed the rodents whatsoever.
Lets all try and avoid baitspill from sloppy spoding techniques and take used old bait away.
Feeding rats anything increases your risk - be warned.
Let the Baliff or fishery manager know about rodent sightings. Because if they do nothing their duty of care may be called into question. Likewise if you take no precautions yourself your own duty of care & to others may be approached as neglect. I imagine though, it could be hard case to proove.
Consciencous fishery owners should have a plan, and consider the problem in their Risk assessment
for their business.
Disgarded food & Spilt bait = Rat food No food. No bait spill = Less rats
Less Rats = Less risk to mine & your HEALTH
I hope I'm not into the swim after you. Your tactic may give you a clear night but the repercussions are
immense. Don't feed the rodents whatsoever.
Lets all try and avoid baitspill from sloppy spoding techniques and take used old bait away.
Feeding rats anything increases your risk - be warned.
Let the Baliff or fishery manager know about rodent sightings. Because if they do nothing their duty of care may be called into question. Likewise if you take no precautions yourself your own duty of care & to others may be approached as neglect. I imagine though, it could be hard case to proove.
Consciencous fishery owners should have a plan, and consider the problem in their Risk assessment
for their business.
Disgarded food & Spilt bait = Rat food No food. No bait spill = Less rats
Less Rats = Less risk to mine & your HEALTH
In reply to Post #25
im lucky ive only fish one night where ive seen a rat so sleep with my door open. the only problem i had last year when i was fishing on the river was the cows
im lucky ive only fish one night where ive seen a rat so sleep with my door open. the only problem i had last year when i was fishing on the river was the cows
In reply to Post #24
Cheers mate
Cheers mate
In reply to Post #1000
Good post 1000, Bob...For those who cannot be arsed to read the entire thread linked in post 24, just look at these three pix...
On release from hospital after surviving Weils, and loosing 17kg in less than 10 days...
Black tongue cause by the treatment...
About 18 months later...and I am still suffering the after effects to this day, six years later...
If you are determined not to listen to guys like me who have suffered and, thank God survived, then more fool you. You are stupid with a capital P...
Post 21: You are an ars'ole. What you suggest is ignorant and irresponsible beyond belief
Good post 1000, Bob...For those who cannot be arsed to read the entire thread linked in post 24, just look at these three pix...
On release from hospital after surviving Weils, and loosing 17kg in less than 10 days...
Black tongue cause by the treatment...
About 18 months later...and I am still suffering the after effects to this day, six years later...
If you are determined not to listen to guys like me who have suffered and, thank God survived, then more fool you. You are stupid with a capital P...
Post 21: You are an ars'ole. What you suggest is ignorant and irresponsible beyond belief
In reply to Post #21
Take this seriously ken was lucky but a friend of mine was not he was in the barn felt something wet on his face it was rat urine not long after he had the disease weil's i am afraid he did not last long he was dead within days he turned a horrible yellow and swelled up terrible. I also lost my dog SAM with weil's all he did was to drink infected water out of a puddle beside the road he was dead within months although the vet said he could save him no way if that happened again i would have the dog put down terrible to see him suffer like he did he had the appropriate injections but it did not stop him catching it so please take heed when on the bank
Take this seriously ken was lucky but a friend of mine was not he was in the barn felt something wet on his face it was rat urine not long after he had the disease weil's i am afraid he did not last long he was dead within days he turned a horrible yellow and swelled up terrible. I also lost my dog SAM with weil's all he did was to drink infected water out of a puddle beside the road he was dead within months although the vet said he could save him no way if that happened again i would have the dog put down terrible to see him suffer like he did he had the appropriate injections but it did not stop him catching it so please take heed when on the bank