Disliking ULEZ or Sadiq Khan and calling out fascism is not mutually exclusive, chaps.
In reply to Post #268
Not trying to be pedantic I simply didn't understand your post.
Sometimes we write and we know what we mean but to others it may not be so clear.
When you say a 'few' I'm still not sure who you are referring to.
Not having ago at RKB but I don't understand his post 'not mutually exclusive'
Does that mean if you don't like ULEZ and/or Khan then you can/can't call out facisism?
It's only a post, it's not that important if I understand it but it's an example of what I'm trying to get at.
It happens all the time on this forum
Not trying to be pedantic I simply didn't understand your post.
Sometimes we write and we know what we mean but to others it may not be so clear.
When you say a 'few' I'm still not sure who you are referring to.
Not having ago at RKB but I don't understand his post 'not mutually exclusive'
Does that mean if you don't like ULEZ and/or Khan then you can/can't call out facisism?
It's only a post, it's not that important if I understand it but it's an example of what I'm trying to get at.
It happens all the time on this forum
15 minutes cities
Should they be forced upon us or should we be allowed to say whether we want them or not?
Should they be forced upon us or should we be allowed to say whether we want them or not?
In reply to Post #273
Isn't the idea just to provide people in big cities with essentials like healthcare, schools, etc locally? I thought folk would still be able to traipse across London to get to a dentist if they want to.
It's odd that the 15 minute city thing has been taken up by the conspiracy mob to be the next thing to wet themselves about, now that they can't complain about having to wear masks / lockdowns / compulsory vaccines that never happened.
There's plenty of reasonable criticism of LTNs by reasonable people. I've only seen Piers Corbyn soundalikes complaining about the idea of 15 minute cities, which makes me think they must be fine.
Isn't the idea just to provide people in big cities with essentials like healthcare, schools, etc locally? I thought folk would still be able to traipse across London to get to a dentist if they want to.
It's odd that the 15 minute city thing has been taken up by the conspiracy mob to be the next thing to wet themselves about, now that they can't complain about having to wear masks / lockdowns / compulsory vaccines that never happened.
There's plenty of reasonable criticism of LTNs by reasonable people. I've only seen Piers Corbyn soundalikes complaining about the idea of 15 minute cities, which makes me think they must be fine.
In reply to Post #274
People seem to overlook the fact that the opposite of “car dependent” is not “car free”.
The goal is to provide urban and suburban environments that do not require car travel for everyday activities. In no way whatsoever does that mean that people will be prohibited from driving, or can't have a van, or any of the other amusing claims the conspiracist gobsh*tes are peddling on social media. If anything, for people who really need to drive (the elderly, tradesmen, disabled, etc.. all the “but-what-about”s, basically), these schemes will make their life easier by removing all the other drivers who don't actually need to be in a car.
But I think a lot of people in towns and cities have got used to driving to places and don't consider that there could be closer, quicker options if they chose a different mode of travel: 15 minutes is actually a fair distance on foot, and on a bike it covers a bigger area than most towns.
Here's a handy online tool to see what you've got within 15 minutes of where you live: https://app.traveltime.com/ The walking times it uses are for a fairly leisurely walker: I can reach its “25 minute” radius in about 20 minutes.
People seem to overlook the fact that the opposite of “car dependent” is not “car free”.
The goal is to provide urban and suburban environments that do not require car travel for everyday activities. In no way whatsoever does that mean that people will be prohibited from driving, or can't have a van, or any of the other amusing claims the conspiracist gobsh*tes are peddling on social media. If anything, for people who really need to drive (the elderly, tradesmen, disabled, etc.. all the “but-what-about”s, basically), these schemes will make their life easier by removing all the other drivers who don't actually need to be in a car.
But I think a lot of people in towns and cities have got used to driving to places and don't consider that there could be closer, quicker options if they chose a different mode of travel: 15 minutes is actually a fair distance on foot, and on a bike it covers a bigger area than most towns.
Here's a handy online tool to see what you've got within 15 minutes of where you live: https://app.traveltime.com/ The walking times it uses are for a fairly leisurely walker: I can reach its “25 minute” radius in about 20 minutes.
The petition simply asks that people should be allowed to choose.
If enough people want a 15 minute city (15MC) then they'll get one.
I live in London and within a 15 minute walk I have some independent mini markets but no major supermarket or shops. The higher prices and the lack of choice and availability would mean a 15MC would not work for me. That's in London, outside I'd imagine people elsewhere would have far less choice.
As for cycling, however bad London traffic has got there doesn't seem to be a significant uptake in cycling.
I haven't got a link to hand but after the initial rise in cycling in lockdown it's back down to pre covid levels.
Much road space has been given up for mostly empty cycle lanes causing gridlock and more pollution, the opposite to what is supposed to happen.
I don't know about other areas but around here people rarely drive for pleasure, those days are long gone.
If enough people want a 15 minute city (15MC) then they'll get one.
I live in London and within a 15 minute walk I have some independent mini markets but no major supermarket or shops. The higher prices and the lack of choice and availability would mean a 15MC would not work for me. That's in London, outside I'd imagine people elsewhere would have far less choice.
As for cycling, however bad London traffic has got there doesn't seem to be a significant uptake in cycling.
I haven't got a link to hand but after the initial rise in cycling in lockdown it's back down to pre covid levels.
Much road space has been given up for mostly empty cycle lanes causing gridlock and more pollution, the opposite to what is supposed to happen.
I don't know about other areas but around here people rarely drive for pleasure, those days are long gone.
In reply to Post #273
Done.
Done.
In reply to Post #278
Total bill was £1984 ....
Just like Orwell told us? Coincidence? Or is big brother watching us and controlling our lives?
At 78 mph does that make the size of a 15 minute city bigger? Enquiring minds want the truth...
Total bill was £1984 ....
Just like Orwell told us? Coincidence? Or is big brother watching us and controlling our lives?
At 78 mph does that make the size of a 15 minute city bigger? Enquiring minds want the truth...
In reply to Post #279
For almost doubling the speed limit should have got a ban also.
For almost doubling the speed limit should have got a ban also.
Dangerous cycle lanes The report is about Waltham Forest but they are in many other places as well.
And the war continues....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65243274
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65243274
In reply to Post #282
I see Rachel Aldred gets a mention. She very carefully manipulates data, by that I mean she cherry picks what constitutes a LTN boundary road to suit her agenda. It's scandalous how she gets away with it but the media doesn't like to question her for fear of looking like they are climate change/clean air deniers. Shame really as these LTNs can actually make it worse.
I see Rachel Aldred gets a mention. She very carefully manipulates data, by that I mean she cherry picks what constitutes a LTN boundary road to suit her agenda. It's scandalous how she gets away with it but the media doesn't like to question her for fear of looking like they are climate change/clean air deniers. Shame really as these LTNs can actually make it worse.
