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mal mal
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#256 4 Mar 2023 20:58
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Why don't you read it again?

If accuracy is your issue in an article that mentions nazi symbols .... ffs

The title is inaccurate. Unless it was ulez protesters holding the far right banners of course. Because he was clear in drawing the distinction between those with ulez concerns and those who displayed a different agenda. He was very clear in separating the different factions.

The article mentions 'people holding placards with far right motifs'. Plural.

Unsurprising that 'certain members of this forum' find it necessary to divert from the issue of fascist ideology and symbolism by trying to make it the fault of the person it's directed at.


1 swastika is too many for me. What's your threshold?



Tinhead Tinhead
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#257 4 Mar 2023 22:16
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My opinion is that Khan is a ****.
ULEZ is more to do with making money than pollution.
I said it early, I get displaced traffic due to the current ULEZ so the expansion might help me but I don't think it's fair on people who genuinely need a vehicle and can't afford to replace it.
He also thinks LTNs are a good idea, clean air campaigner Rosamund Kissi-Debra thinks they favour a minority at the detriment of the manor.
So yes Khan is a ****.

Here's what he says. And he's a **** for saying what he says. The protesters were from all walks of live, yet he felt the need to single out right wingers and covid and vaccine deniers and tories. Why not mention the multitude of other types of people who are against his scheme?
LINK

mal mal
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#258 4 Mar 2023 23:44
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He did mention them. 'Those who've got legitimate objections.'

And he also spoke about those with other agendas hijacking the thing you are so passionate about.

The right wing ****s with the swastikas are singling him out, not the other way around.

You should be pissed off at them for undermining the legitimate concerns of people like you.

Nobody - except the very worst in our society - is going to support a protest that has nazi symbols in its midst.

Would you be happy to be stood amongst them? Do the little hitlers speak for you? Does piers corbyn? I very much doubt it

Tinhead Tinhead
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#259 5 Mar 2023 10:00
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And by mentioning a minority it pissed off the majority of 'Those who've got legitimate objections.'

He can't accept that his scheme is unpopular so resorted to these tactics.
That's why the bloke is a Khant.


mal mal
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#260 5 Mar 2023 11:51
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If they weren't already pissed off by the swastika then they're part of the problem

If they're pissed off by it being mentioned then they need to get some perspective

Stokebloke Stokebloke
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#261 5 Mar 2023 12:26
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The only evidence to Nazi symbols is a solitary photo provided by Khan's 'spokesperson.'
Given Khan's history with the truth the evidence could be considered iffy. Especially as now people who attended the event claim to be unaware of such.
mal mal
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#262 5 Mar 2023 13:02
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Given the right wing / nazi sympathisers history with hiding evidence/ lying / denying atrocities (holocaust - Well I never saw it so it didn't happen) ....etc etc.

Carry on finding your excuses for it eh?

ocelot ocelot
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#263 5 Mar 2023 14:34
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In reply to Post #259
You're agreed Blankalot with the view that these schemes are "environmental racism" because affected areas are predominantly non white.
Pretty sure that view and endorsement has pissed a few off who welcome the change.
Tinhead Tinhead
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#264 5 Mar 2023 18:48
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Not sure what you mean, at the moment we are talking about the ULEZ expansion, as far as I'm aware that has nothing to do with race.
While on the subject what percentage of the crowd were Nazis? Minute I would have thought.


Stokebloke Stokebloke
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#265 6 Mar 2023 08:12
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In reply to Post #262
My excuses for what exactly?
Be careful.
mal mal
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#266 6 Mar 2023 14:55
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In reply to Post #265
Your excuses for the far right wing targeting of an individual.

'Be careful' of what exactly?

Is that generic advice (I already avoid potholes and walking under ladders and I manage my cholesterol levels) - or is it meant in a more threatening manner?

Stokebloke Stokebloke
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#267 6 Mar 2023 19:45
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In reply to Post #266
The only far right wing is in Khan's head. Everyone who disagrees is, according to him far right. He makes a very strong accusation of Tories being far right. Given that a very large percentage of the Jewish community vote Tory such a suggestion could be viewed as being Anti Semetic. Pairing Jews with Nazis would be somewhat dumb.
Don't fall into the trap.
ocelot ocelot
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#268 6 Mar 2023 20:54
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In reply to Post #264
You believe that LTN's that affect you are decided by environmental racists, chosen on racist lines because they affect majority non white areas . No need to be pedantic Blankalot.
mal mal
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#269 6 Mar 2023 21:47
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In reply to Post #267
All in his head...

Maybe you need to get yours out of the sand if you don't see the problem in far right ideology on the rise...

Want some examples? I mean real ones? Not the ones you think are just in his head?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/02/tories-far-right-rhetoric

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/suella-braverman-invasion-far-right-rhetoric-tory-party/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-far-right-extremists-join-conservatives-support-britain-first-a9252201.html

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/07/21/the-far-righting-of-the-conservative-party/

https://irr.org.uk/article/the-rise-of-britains-far-right/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/25/house-of-lords-worked-with-far-right

And surely you've heard of these nasty little creatures...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/15/patriotic-alternative-trying-to-inflame-local-tensions-in-britain-to-spread-far-right-stance

But ... it's all in Khan's head right?





Stokebloke Stokebloke
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#270 6 Mar 2023 22:52
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In reply to Post #269
But how many of them were outside the meeting in question?
The cameras don't lie. The Mayor does.
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