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Tinhead Tinhead
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#151 24 May 2022 14:01
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No surprises
Councillors are nearly ten times more likely to live in areas where through-traffic has been minimised than on congested boundary roads, The Times has found.

Freedom of Information requests to local authorities that implemented the schemes, known as Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs), during lockdown found that 24.6 per cent of councillors lived within the areas but only 2.9 per cent lived on the surrounding roads. By comparison, 19.6 per cent of residents lived within LTNs and 8.5 per cent lived on boundary roads.

The figures are likely to raise concerns of Nimbyism by councillors who have supported the schemes, which use bollards, planting boxes and enforcement cameras to block through-traffic.

People living in the zones have benefited from quieter streets but residents on the boundary.........


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troutybrown
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#152 24 May 2022 16:58
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In reply to Post #151
At least the one in Dulwich has had the hours halved I'm in Lambeth and we have 57 out 0f 57 Labour councillors.
Tinhead Tinhead
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#153 24 May 2022 19:54
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In reply to Post #152
A council with no opposition is a bad council. They just take the electorate for granted.
Tinhead Tinhead
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#154 24 May 2022 19:54
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In reply to Post #152
oops DP
mal mal
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#155 24 May 2022 20:19
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In reply to Post #153
Just like a government with a huge majority eh?

All the signs are still up around Manchester for the clean air zones. Not sure it's ever going to happen while Andy Burnham is in post
Tinhead Tinhead
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#156 24 May 2022 21:13
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In reply to Post #155
There's a difference between a huge majority and no majority.
At Westminster Labour still have the ability to make things difficult. Can you image parliament where every single seat is occupied by a Tory.
All the Tories on one side facing the empty side of the room.
That's what is happening at some council meeting rooms.
ocelot ocelot
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#157 24 May 2022 21:39
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In reply to Post #156
Don't think a bit of noise from a minority opposition changes the decisions do you?

Seems an odd moan about a labour council in a labour city Sir Tinhead. London has for years taken 50% of the total taxpayer spending on public transport for the total country. 3 or 4 times the funding per head. You should be applauding their unity to get the funding to clean the air up and improve public transport in your city surely.
The rest of the country is full of privately owned buses going nowhere you want to go and full of pensioners keeping warm.
Tinhead Tinhead
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#158 24 May 2022 22:02
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In reply to Post #157
Don't believe all you hear about clean air reports. Most improvements are mostly due to advances in car technology.
LTNs and ULEZ have only displaced traffic, caused gridlock and pollution elsewhere, like onto my road.

Ella Kissi Debrah the only person to have pollution on their death certificate lived on a road that has been made even worse by a LTN and ULEZ.

Can't moan about public transport funding though, although Khan does, he always wants more, fair enough that's his job, as you say it doesn't seem fair when other parts of the country struggle.

Funny how many Labour councillors live in a LTN, gentrifying their neighbourhoods at the expense of lesser people on the outside who take their traffic. Very nimby Tory like. See post #151
ocelot ocelot
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#159 24 May 2022 22:25
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In reply to Post #158
Your being a Nimby yourself mate.
There's winners and losers in most investment and environmental projects. Doubtless your property has been on the winning end in the past. Can't stop progress, the countries not a museum.
Fair enough for having a go about something you care about and doing something about it on the street.
Tinhead Tinhead
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#160 24 May 2022 22:41
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In reply to Post #159
I'm certainly not a nimby.
I live in London and accept that comes with having to take my fair share of the burden of traffic that invariably comes with living in the capital.
What I take exception to is having my neighbourhood blighted because 3 councillors, 2 ex MP's, a local pressure group and all their family and friends had their area made a LTN without prior consultation.

mal mal
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#161 25 May 2022 00:04
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I just had to Google nimby

oliverm oliverm
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#162 25 May 2022 12:06
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In reply to Post #147
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ocelot ocelot
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#163 25 May 2022 12:44
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In reply to Post #160
So if your area had been designated the same you wouldn't be protesting is what your saying? The excessive traffic would be blighting somewhere else, in someone else's back yard.
Or just the perceived gerrymandering by a few people of influence during lockdown?
Tinhead Tinhead
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#164 25 May 2022 17:48
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In reply to Post #163
No not saying that. Don't judge me by your standards
If my road was blocked off it would displace the traffic somewhere else and i don't think that would be right.
I know where the traffic would go, straight down a road my mate lives on and I don't think that's fair.

Not everyone who lives in our local LTN thinks its great. Some don't like the injustice, some don't like having to drive the long way around to get in and out where before they just drove out of their street.
Some don't feel safe going out at night because in some streets no one is about.
Some worry about emergency services, even the binmen don't like reversing back out of roads after collecting rubbish.





Rosamund_Kissi-Debrah
is very much against the local LTN.
My missus walks to work and the pollution plays havoc with her asthma.

Anyway its not just about me and my area.
Oxford
Tinhead Tinhead
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#165 2 Jun 2022 10:14
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So you are stuck in traffic and an ambulance, fire engine or the police are struggling to get past.
I don't know about you but I'd find it difficult to just sit there and not budge but it seems that's what you have to do
LINK

Sadly with the introduction of recent road schemes the emergency services getting stuck is an all to common occurrence
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