Just watched a video on the new bait,looks very interesting.It has no eggs in the mix just uses the ingredients to bind it together.Due for release in the spring,might give this a try
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If its anything like any of there other gear it will be good.
If its anything like any of there other gear it will be good.
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Im looking for a new bait company would anyone reccomend baitworks. if so what products?
Im looking for a new bait company would anyone reccomend baitworks. if so what products?
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I only ever see positive things about the company.Atlantic heat is suppose to be very good and the scent from hell and scent from heaven pop ups
I only ever see positive things about the company.Atlantic heat is suppose to be very good and the scent from hell and scent from heaven pop ups
I use baitworks i have used the full range i like the rm and m r both good baits will defo be useing this new one that is coming out soon
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All 3 of the current boilies are good, atlantic heat has certainly stood the test of time. Personally, I like the monster red. The heaven and hell pop-ups are good value, you get loads of the little barrel ones in a tub and they make a good snowman with the 18mm boilies. I think you can still get a small sample pack if you want to see the difference between the baits. I'd happily cast any of them out and feel confident doing so.
All 3 of the current boilies are good, atlantic heat has certainly stood the test of time. Personally, I like the monster red. The heaven and hell pop-ups are good value, you get loads of the little barrel ones in a tub and they make a good snowman with the 18mm boilies. I think you can still get a small sample pack if you want to see the difference between the baits. I'd happily cast any of them out and feel confident doing so.
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I moved to BW royal marine after ditching sticky krill last year, and have no regrets at all.
I moved to BW royal marine after ditching sticky krill last year, and have no regrets at all.
What's the advantage of not using eggs?
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Says something in the video like no eggs = less fat
Says something in the video like no eggs = less fat
I imagine it will be a great bait like the other 3.....
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Probably a quicker break down time.
Probably a quicker break down time.
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Can recommend the Atlantic Heat shelf life baits, done me proud from last Spring and have already feed some carp in the margins 2 weeks ago, it works all year just fine, I haven't used any of their other products.
Can recommend the Atlantic Heat shelf life baits, done me proud from last Spring and have already feed some carp in the margins 2 weeks ago, it works all year just fine, I haven't used any of their other products.
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Is it a freezer or stabillsed as I saw the video saying he dosent use eggs?
Is it a freezer or stabillsed as I saw the video saying he dosent use eggs?
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Anyone used it yet?
Also, what is the quality like on their pop ups and wafters?
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MH
Anyone used it yet?
Also, what is the quality like on their pop ups and wafters?
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MH
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Used atlantic heat since the end of lockdown and I havnt blanked yet,
Probably done the kiss of death now but really impressed so far
Used atlantic heat since the end of lockdown and I havnt blanked yet,
Probably done the kiss of death now but really impressed so far
All there boilies are spot on been useing them the last 4 to 5 year and done well on them but i have switched to dna now as they have better bulk deals on
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I was thinking of going the other way from DNA.
Nearly bought the 30k DNA deal last week and then it seems they've take it down and I thought I'd try something new. Didn't do too well on S7 so not like I'm 100% sold on it.
When I compare it's £30 more from Baitworks so not that much more expensive and if this new one works then worth it. Will only know if I try though.
That's why I'm interested in the Creamino especially.
I was thinking of going the other way from DNA.
Nearly bought the 30k DNA deal last week and then it seems they've take it down and I thought I'd try something new. Didn't do too well on S7 so not like I'm 100% sold on it.
When I compare it's £30 more from Baitworks so not that much more expensive and if this new one works then worth it. Will only know if I try though.
That's why I'm interested in the Creamino especially.
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I went for slk i have used it in the past and did well on it and got 5kg of s7 to mix in with it gunna be giving it a go tomorrow
I went for slk i have used it in the past and did well on it and got 5kg of s7 to mix in with it gunna be giving it a go tomorrow
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First time I've heard of S7 not catching fish , in fact it's the first ever post I've seen with any kind of negativity, no offence though , how long have you been using it without much success ?
First time I've heard of S7 not catching fish , in fact it's the first ever post I've seen with any kind of negativity, no offence though , how long have you been using it without much success ?
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Never said I didn't catch on it just didn't do amazingly well, tried it for a full 12 months.
Was a hard water mind but I was wondering if a non fish meal and something different would do better.
Was thinking of moving onto a 50/50 mix of s7 and the switch but they dropped the 30k deal and then see The Creamino, hence me asking the question.
Never said I didn't catch on it just didn't do amazingly well, tried it for a full 12 months.
Was a hard water mind but I was wondering if a non fish meal and something different would do better.
Was thinking of moving onto a 50/50 mix of s7 and the switch but they dropped the 30k deal and then see The Creamino, hence me asking the question.
Baitworks user for the past 8/9 years. Atlantic Heat is my absolute go to bait, done me so well over the years.
CreAmino will be my Autumn/Winter bait, not got my hands on any yet, but will be ordering end of the month. Their shelf life, as like many companies nowadays, are nothing like what they used to be like, they barely compromise on quality and extremely reminiscent of their fresh/freezer bait.
Moved into a property with the missus and can't take up freezer space so have 5kg of Atlantic Heat Shelf Life and I can't tell the difference between them and the freezer baits.
CreAmino will be my Autumn/Winter bait, not got my hands on any yet, but will be ordering end of the month. Their shelf life, as like many companies nowadays, are nothing like what they used to be like, they barely compromise on quality and extremely reminiscent of their fresh/freezer bait.
Moved into a property with the missus and can't take up freezer space so have 5kg of Atlantic Heat Shelf Life and I can't tell the difference between them and the freezer baits.
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What's the advantage of not using eggs?
Quite a few, in fact but the most relevant to carp anglers are:
Eggs buffer pH so inhibit potential low-pH attraction.
They contain a trypsin inhibitor which can stall the uptake/utilisation of bait protein.
They slow down the release of natural and artificial attraction.
They slow down or inhibit water ingress which slows the breakdown rate.
Egg-based bait is harder to digest.
What's the advantage of not using eggs?
Quite a few, in fact but the most relevant to carp anglers are:
Eggs buffer pH so inhibit potential low-pH attraction.
They contain a trypsin inhibitor which can stall the uptake/utilisation of bait protein.
They slow down the release of natural and artificial attraction.
They slow down or inhibit water ingress which slows the breakdown rate.
Egg-based bait is harder to digest.
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Interesting post Ken. Made me think a bit.
Interesting post Ken. Made me think a bit.
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But everyone using fresh liquid eggs, homemade or commercially, for making boilies have caught how many carp ?
Carp cannot be that bothered by fresh liquid egg, or the results would show that non egg baits were the dogs wotsits .
But everyone using fresh liquid eggs, homemade or commercially, for making boilies have caught how many carp ?
Carp cannot be that bothered by fresh liquid egg, or the results would show that non egg baits were the dogs wotsits .
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Yes, of course, every carp swimming will eat or at least pick up pretty much anything at one point or another.
Kens post did not suggest they won't work (if made with eggs), it was merely the potentials of what eggs could do to a bait, thus increasing the bait by not using them.
Can eggs cause carp to stop feeding? Definitely not.
Can they impact how/when they feed on a particular bait? Possibly, in my opinion. They will however eventually feed on that item regardless, whether eggs are included or not, again, in my opinion.
Yes, of course, every carp swimming will eat or at least pick up pretty much anything at one point or another.
Kens post did not suggest they won't work (if made with eggs), it was merely the potentials of what eggs could do to a bait, thus increasing the bait by not using them.
Can eggs cause carp to stop feeding? Definitely not.
Can they impact how/when they feed on a particular bait? Possibly, in my opinion. They will however eventually feed on that item regardless, whether eggs are included or not, again, in my opinion.
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How many people would have used a boiled bait without some form of binding it, powdered, fresh or albumen?
How many people would have used a boiled bait without some form of binding it, powdered, fresh or albumen?
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Exactly, No one would, 4 or 6 eggs were the most cost effective means of holding it all together, and giving it the nuisance fish proof skin, it would be impractical to roll and use it otherwise.
Even using horrible binders like wheat gluten in large amounts, we still caught enough.
Do our current/future boiled baits need to focus more on solubility and digestibility than previously thought?
Is this the start of a trend to go liquid egg free, or is it a convenience, shelf life thing.
Exactly, No one would, 4 or 6 eggs were the most cost effective means of holding it all together, and giving it the nuisance fish proof skin, it would be impractical to roll and use it otherwise.
Even using horrible binders like wheat gluten in large amounts, we still caught enough.
Do our current/future boiled baits need to focus more on solubility and digestibility than previously thought?
Is this the start of a trend to go liquid egg free, or is it a convenience, shelf life thing.
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none of their base mixes need eggs.
none of their base mixes need eggs.
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Egg albumen is a point in itself. A fantastic binder but in my opinion a terrible ingredient......the goodness is locked up inside and water ingress/exchange is all but halted.
Egg albumen is a point in itself. A fantastic binder but in my opinion a terrible ingredient......the goodness is locked up inside and water ingress/exchange is all but halted.
Just because a bait doesn't contain eggs does not mean it doesn't contain egg derived products 
Not saying this is the case with the Cre-Amino, just saying!
Not saying this is the case with the Cre-Amino, just saying!
I have never said that egg-based boilies are no good, just that there are some disadvantages as well as advantages. An excellent alternative binder would be whey protein...Or wheat gluten, anybody??? 
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They use dried eggs rather than in the shell. Storage and eas of use. Dried egg dose not go off like in the shell, takes up less room and less time. No waste.
All 3 in a bucket, pour glug over the top and leave to soak in.
Cremamino is getting a good following, rumour is it's not the same as Elliot came up with, to exspensive, but the alternative is working. Like anything, put enough half decent in and the mud pigs will get on it eventually.
They use dried eggs rather than in the shell. Storage and eas of use. Dried egg dose not go off like in the shell, takes up less room and less time. No waste.
All 3 in a bucket, pour glug over the top and leave to soak in.
Cremamino is getting a good following, rumour is it's not the same as Elliot came up with, to exspensive, but the alternative is working. Like anything, put enough half decent in and the mud pigs will get on it eventually.
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As far as i know there is no egg or powder egg in that mix it was mentiond in a you tube video the done a few month ago
As far as i know there is no egg or powder egg in that mix it was mentiond in a you tube video the done a few month ago
Has anyone got any reviews on the Creamino yet?
Current user of the Atlantic Heat but the lake I fish does more bites on a nut based boilie.
Current user of the Atlantic Heat but the lake I fish does more bites on a nut based boilie.
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Don't think a long term review can be done for at least a year. If it's like the rest of the range it will stand the test of time......
Don't think a long term review can be done for at least a year. If it's like the rest of the range it will stand the test of time......
In reply to Post #35
Creamino isn't nut based
Creamino isn't nut based
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For some reason I thought it was but just watched the video and confirmed it wasn't, I will order 20kg and see how I get on, if it's like any of the other range it will do well.
For some reason I thought it was but just watched the video and confirmed it wasn't, I will order 20kg and see how I get on, if it's like any of the other range it will do well.
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How is the creamino doing on the bank ?
How is the creamino doing on the bank ?
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Probably not as well as it does in the water....
Probably not as well as it does in the water....
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Lol
Lol
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That's a classic answer fair play pal hahaha
That's a classic answer fair play pal hahaha
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Had me over like a kipper
Had me over like a kipper
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I am having success on the pop ups.
I am not a fan of the bottom baits tbh. They break down after a while and are succeptible to silver fish pecking away at them.
Will try the hard hookers before i discount them
I am having success on the pop ups.
I am not a fan of the bottom baits tbh. They break down after a while and are succeptible to silver fish pecking away at them.
Will try the hard hookers before i discount them
Sounds ideal for colder water
I've been having good results on the creamino..
The carp seem to like it...
The carp seem to like it...
Anymore reviews on baitworks creamino now it's been out a while ?
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Mate goes carping once a month but does very well on it the pellets are fantastic to he says, he keeps fish and thay get on it very well , never used there bait but I know there stuff is very good
Mate goes carping once a month but does very well on it the pellets are fantastic to he says, he keeps fish and thay get on it very well , never used there bait but I know there stuff is very good
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Mate of mine uses the shelf life version. Quite a soft bait Scopex type lable to it. He really rates it.
Mate of mine uses the shelf life version. Quite a soft bait Scopex type lable to it. He really rates it.
How do the bait makers on hear rate bait works base mixes you can buy paired to others like john bakers , aa etc base mixes..
I keep meaning to giv it a go making my own bait but only shop bought base mixes as i aint got as clue wot doing so bait works ones look quite simple for a noddie like me .
I keep meaning to giv it a go making my own bait but only shop bought base mixes as i aint got as clue wot doing so bait works ones look quite simple for a noddie like me .
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I've used both John Baker and Baitworks mixes. Love them both.
If you're just starting then I'd go for a Baitworks mix with the matching liquid. Then you've got everything together. Dead easy to mix as well.
I've used both John Baker and Baitworks mixes. Love them both.
If you're just starting then I'd go for a Baitworks mix with the matching liquid. Then you've got everything together. Dead easy to mix as well.
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Cheere for that . Is the baitworks base mix realy the same as the boilies you buy from them tho or are they holding a few things back . .im very intrested to try my first go at bait making this way can you add bits 2 it ok .
Sure keeper boy on hear was gona start doing base mixes 2 used lot of his bait with great results so mite try one of his with bit added stuff if easy to do . .
Cheere for that . Is the baitworks base mix realy the same as the boilies you buy from them tho or are they holding a few things back . .im very intrested to try my first go at bait making this way can you add bits 2 it ok .
Sure keeper boy on hear was gona start doing base mixes 2 used lot of his bait with great results so mite try one of his with bit added stuff if easy to do . .
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The base mix is a lot finer than what go's into the boilies they sell hold the 2 together shop bought and the ones you make with base mix and crumble both and you will see the diffrance
The base mix is a lot finer than what go's into the boilies they sell hold the 2 together shop bought and the ones you make with base mix and crumble both and you will see the diffrance
Giving an old thread a bump - I bought a load of this (and some Atlantic heat) on black Friday and just opened my second 5kg shelf life bag.
I expected it to be quite a soft bait but I've been surprised at how hard it actually is. Even after a 24 hour soak in water the texture is still quite hard/dry/powdery towards the middle compared to the DNA bait I was using before.
So to the long term users of this bait, Is that the normal texture of creamino?
I was planning on saving the Atlantic heat until the spring but tempted to open a bag to see how firm they are too
I expected it to be quite a soft bait but I've been surprised at how hard it actually is. Even after a 24 hour soak in water the texture is still quite hard/dry/powdery towards the middle compared to the DNA bait I was using before.
So to the long term users of this bait, Is that the normal texture of creamino?
I was planning on saving the Atlantic heat until the spring but tempted to open a bag to see how firm they are too
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I'd drop them a message mate as that doesn't seem right
I'd drop them a message mate as that doesn't seem right
Likewise I've found it to be incredibly soft out of the bag. That said, once opened, the shelf lifes do toughen up a little but not enough for concern. Does sound odd
Thanks both, I'll send them a message and see what they suggest
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