I've just watched a video where a well known/famous/sponsored carp angler caught a carp and, when he wheight it he show the digital scale that signs 0 on the screen, put the fish on it and now the scale shows 52.8. then he claimed the wheight of the carp 52.8 as a new pb without detract the wheight of the sling 
I don't know the fox scale he's using and could I miss something here, but just I don't know how does the scale can detract this wheight in excess. And wondering how many claimed carp's wheight has the wheight of the sling in it as well.
I don't know the fox scale he's using and could I miss something here, but just I don't know how does the scale can detract this wheight in excess. And wondering how many claimed carp's wheight has the wheight of the sling in it as well.
In reply to Post #1
If its a video available to all, why not just name the angler you are talking about, and post a link to said video.
Im sure they could have zeroed the scales while the camera wasnt rolling. Not sure ive ever seen a video where they show the faff of zeroing scales, setting cameras up, getting water ready etc
If its a video available to all, why not just name the angler you are talking about, and post a link to said video.
Im sure they could have zeroed the scales while the camera wasnt rolling. Not sure ive ever seen a video where they show the faff of zeroing scales, setting cameras up, getting water ready etc
In reply to Post #1
I use Fox digital scales. You turn it on, put on your weighing sling and then press the tare button and after a few seconds, it reads zero. Add your carp to the sling and then it gives you the weight of the carp. I haven't seen the footage but I'm afraid you probably were missing something, possibly it was tared out of shot as it isn't exactly riveting watching.
I use Fox digital scales. You turn it on, put on your weighing sling and then press the tare button and after a few seconds, it reads zero. Add your carp to the sling and then it gives you the weight of the carp. I haven't seen the footage but I'm afraid you probably were missing something, possibly it was tared out of shot as it isn't exactly riveting watching.
In reply to Post #2
I remember seeing this the other day if it is the same video. It was a Fox challenge video. Had a look again out of curiosity and it is episode 25 about 43 mins into the video, I remembered the scale saying zero, I just thought that maybe the weight of the sling was already accounted for somehow on the scale, as in it has been zeroed with the scale on but still says zero when lifted off or something. Not sure how these digi ones work!
I remember seeing this the other day if it is the same video. It was a Fox challenge video. Had a look again out of curiosity and it is episode 25 about 43 mins into the video, I remembered the scale saying zero, I just thought that maybe the weight of the sling was already accounted for somehow on the scale, as in it has been zeroed with the scale on but still says zero when lifted off or something. Not sure how these digi ones work!
In reply to Post #3
Beat me to it
Beat me to it
In reply to Post #5
Whatever it weighed, I'm sure we can all agree it was probably a banger or banging
Whatever it weighed, I'm sure we can all agree it was probably a banger or banging
In reply to Post #4
I believe Stymie has it spot on. I believe Fox scales get zeroed when you have the sling on the hook, and stay at zero when you then place the carp in the sling. My wychwood ones read " - 0. 11oz " of whatever the weight of the sling is prior to weighing.
It's not an exact science, and I ain't going to argue over +/- 1lb. I use a mesh weigh sling/sack combo from Wychwood so I know it's going to be around 1lb either way. I weigh them out of curiosity than a innate desire to have it tip 20/30lb. These short dumpy ones or long solid ones can be deceptive.
I believe Stymie has it spot on. I believe Fox scales get zeroed when you have the sling on the hook, and stay at zero when you then place the carp in the sling. My wychwood ones read " - 0. 11oz " of whatever the weight of the sling is prior to weighing.
It's not an exact science, and I ain't going to argue over +/- 1lb. I use a mesh weigh sling/sack combo from Wychwood so I know it's going to be around 1lb either way. I weigh them out of curiosity than a innate desire to have it tip 20/30lb. These short dumpy ones or long solid ones can be deceptive.
I cannot speak for fox digital scales but I know a lot of alternative digital scales auto turn off after as little as one minute, after which the tare returns to zero. Please tell me how these work for weighing carp? Assuming you zero your sling soaking wet and place it on your mat it still takes well over a minute to get your fish out the water, out of the net, possibly unhook it and into the sling, if you have to turn your scales on again you cannot assume that your sling is still tared but lots do.
A average wet weigh sling/retainer weighs about 3 an half pounds, I see loads of fish nowadays claimed roughly that amount above what they actually are. Some older guys like me on here will remember the old 32lb dial scale we used to use with 8lb per revolution of the needle and how many fish were claimed 8lbs more than they actually were.
A average wet weigh sling/retainer weighs about 3 an half pounds, I see loads of fish nowadays claimed roughly that amount above what they actually are. Some older guys like me on here will remember the old 32lb dial scale we used to use with 8lb per revolution of the needle and how many fish were claimed 8lbs more than they actually were.
If accuracy is critical, which for.me.it usually isn't,
I weigh the sling after. Fish goes.from net to.safety sling which is already on the mat or.cradle.
That gets lifted to.weigh if its knocking 20+. Less aggro
I weigh the sling after. Fish goes.from net to.safety sling which is already on the mat or.cradle.
That gets lifted to.weigh if its knocking 20+. Less aggro
This is a debate in itself
I always weight then zero my sling on the scales before (obviously I wet the sling beforehand) so that when I weigh a fish what the scales read is what the total weight of the fish is rather than deducting the sling after
Personal preference I assume
I always weight then zero my sling on the scales before (obviously I wet the sling beforehand) so that when I weigh a fish what the scales read is what the total weight of the fish is rather than deducting the sling after
Personal preference I assume
The Fox scales used have a auto switch off after 10 minutes I just timed it for you. If you look closely at the scales they are flashing this starts to happen from around the 4 min mark and becomes more frequent the closer you get to 10 mins.
In reply to Post #11
After a while, the previously tared weight is lost and it reverts to a timer, sometimes it seems to goad you into telling you how long ago you weighed your last fish!
Just put the sling back on, hit the tare button and you're good to go again.
A conventional spring balance scale will obviously show the minus weight when the sling is removed but the Fox scales remain at zero and don't show a minus figure when it is removed. I'm pretty sure (or I've been doing it wrong for years), it remembers the tared weight and you get the true weight of the fish without having to manually deduct weight for the sling.
After a while, the previously tared weight is lost and it reverts to a timer, sometimes it seems to goad you into telling you how long ago you weighed your last fish!
Just put the sling back on, hit the tare button and you're good to go again.
A conventional spring balance scale will obviously show the minus weight when the sling is removed but the Fox scales remain at zero and don't show a minus figure when it is removed. I'm pretty sure (or I've been doing it wrong for years), it remembers the tared weight and you get the true weight of the fish without having to manually deduct weight for the sling.
In reply to Post #9
I'm pretty sure I did myself out maybe a couple of pounds when I weighed my pb.
It was weighed in a euromat/sling and then I took it in that mat to release it, stood in the water with the mat submerged to take some more shots and release the fish (as you have to do obviously, see profile pic!) I then weighed the mat and subtracted the weight from the overall weight. Only afterwards did it dawn on me that the wet mat it was weighed in was nowhere near as heavy as the absolutely soaked mat that I used to calculate the weight I should take off!
The fish usually weighed 42-43lb, I have it at 40lb 6oz and that's good enough for me.
I'm pretty sure I did myself out maybe a couple of pounds when I weighed my pb.
It was weighed in a euromat/sling and then I took it in that mat to release it, stood in the water with the mat submerged to take some more shots and release the fish (as you have to do obviously, see profile pic!) I then weighed the mat and subtracted the weight from the overall weight. Only afterwards did it dawn on me that the wet mat it was weighed in was nowhere near as heavy as the absolutely soaked mat that I used to calculate the weight I should take off!
The fish usually weighed 42-43lb, I have it at 40lb 6oz and that's good enough for me.
In reply to Post #4
You're right the video I talk about is the fox challenge.
Never i used a digital scale and in my mind I thought when you lift the sling the scale read a minus sign.
It seemed to me a really odd thing to show on a video, but I know for sure that the weight claimed in some video isn't the right weight as I caught the same carp 20 days before.
You're right the video I talk about is the fox challenge.
Never i used a digital scale and in my mind I thought when you lift the sling the scale read a minus sign.
It seemed to me a really odd thing to show on a video, but I know for sure that the weight claimed in some video isn't the right weight as I caught the same carp 20 days before.