Hi guys,
i know there is a lot of similar topics, but this question goes to specified ex/owners of these bivvies or people who came close to them or experienced with them. I am looking for quick errecting bivvy (no brolly system), for one person (5'10), with small footprint and rear vents. Which of these would you recommend compare to 1. material quality 2. Durability 3. own experience. In my scope now are Titan TC Pro (350pounds (discount) with front panel, storm poles and groundsheet) or Titan Hide Camo Pro (which is now in my country unavailable), Fox frontier (450 pounds) or your tip. Is it worth waiting for a new model titan hide camo pro versus old TC PRO? Thanks for advice and please excuse my poor English.
i know there is a lot of similar topics, but this question goes to specified ex/owners of these bivvies or people who came close to them or experienced with them. I am looking for quick errecting bivvy (no brolly system), for one person (5'10), with small footprint and rear vents. Which of these would you recommend compare to 1. material quality 2. Durability 3. own experience. In my scope now are Titan TC Pro (350pounds (discount) with front panel, storm poles and groundsheet) or Titan Hide Camo Pro (which is now in my country unavailable), Fox frontier (450 pounds) or your tip. Is it worth waiting for a new model titan hide camo pro versus old TC PRO? Thanks for advice and please excuse my poor English.
Titan is no match for the Frontier. do yourself a favor and get the Frontier.
In reply to Post #1
Fox don't have a great track record for shelters. Nash do. Easy choice
Fox don't have a great track record for shelters. Nash do. Easy choice
In reply to Post #3
Sorry IP, but i don't understand what it means "track records" :( What do you mean by that? U mean short life cycle of products series by fox? Thanks
Sorry IP, but i don't understand what it means "track records" :( What do you mean by that? U mean short life cycle of products series by fox? Thanks
In reply to Post #3
Lol Nash do...
That why Titan T1/2/3 got a Mk2 version
Double tops, seen alot with bad seams and broken zippers.
Nash S3/7 series: Tapes come loose and leak problems
Hides, also getting an update ...
Yes Fox has had many bad Bivvy series (like most manufacturers and certainly Nash)
But the frontier is a different story, saw many side by side including the Hide and the Titan next to the Frontier, both can't match the Frontier.
Btw the old Fox frontier can still be found second hand in good condition, Evo Mk1 was also a very good fox bivvy range, believe me I'm not a big Fox fan especially when it comes to their bivvies but I am absolutely a Frontier fan, Fox did a very good job with this one.
Lol Nash do...
That why Titan T1/2/3 got a Mk2 version
Double tops, seen alot with bad seams and broken zippers.
Nash S3/7 series: Tapes come loose and leak problems
Hides, also getting an update ...
Yes Fox has had many bad Bivvy series (like most manufacturers and certainly Nash)
But the frontier is a different story, saw many side by side including the Hide and the Titan next to the Frontier, both can't match the Frontier.
Btw the old Fox frontier can still be found second hand in good condition, Evo Mk1 was also a very good fox bivvy range, believe me I'm not a big Fox fan especially when it comes to their bivvies but I am absolutely a Frontier fan, Fox did a very good job with this one.
In reply to Post #5
Have a look at trakker tempests aswell mate. Im sure one of the 65 they have in the range now will meeet your requirements
Have a look at trakker tempests aswell mate. Im sure one of the 65 they have in the range now will meeet your requirements
In reply to Post #6
Thanks, but from 147 models i like the most was the Tempest 100 EV 1.0, except the higgghh price...so i ended with trakker, which doesnt mean i dont like trakker at all. But againt the price...
Thanks, but from 147 models i like the most was the Tempest 100 EV 1.0, except the higgghh price...so i ended with trakker, which doesnt mean i dont like trakker at all. But againt the price...
In reply to Post #4
It means they have a history of making not very good shelters, mostly ones that leak .
It means they have a history of making not very good shelters, mostly ones that leak .
In reply to Post #5
Nash started the bivvy thing with their brolly over wraps about 40 years ago now and have been a market leader in the shelter department ever since, bringing out things like the titan which were and still are bloody good shelters. Things have MK2 /3/4 versions because there are many people (sheep) who always have to have the latest product.
Fox on the other hand started also many years ago, and brought out the supa brolly and supa bivvy which were notorious for leaking and falling apart,and by all accounts things haven't improved a great deal from what I've read on here over the last few years.
Looking at things side by side in a shop is all well and good, but in actual use things can be very different. The supa bivvy looked absolutely brilliant ,and when I'd saved up and bought one I very soon learned it really wasnt
Nash started the bivvy thing with their brolly over wraps about 40 years ago now and have been a market leader in the shelter department ever since, bringing out things like the titan which were and still are bloody good shelters. Things have MK2 /3/4 versions because there are many people (sheep) who always have to have the latest product.
Fox on the other hand started also many years ago, and brought out the supa brolly and supa bivvy which were notorious for leaking and falling apart,and by all accounts things haven't improved a great deal from what I've read on here over the last few years.
Looking at things side by side in a shop is all well and good, but in actual use things can be very different. The supa bivvy looked absolutely brilliant ,and when I'd saved up and bought one I very soon learned it really wasnt
In reply to Post #9
Have you ever seen /used the Frontier ?
Have had 3 Nash bivvies (last was the Double top Mk4 2 man) all 3 had problems
And it is not only in the shop that I have seen / compared bivvies also on the waterfront, my mate had a T100 and has now sold it for the Frontier.
And even though Nash started it 40 years ago they still manage to make trash with fail zippers/seems and water leaks
and I am not saying that the T1 is a bad bivvy (for me personally too small / low) what I do say is that the T1 is not a match for the Frontier, and also weird that the T1 is so good they had to make a T1 MK2 version to solve the water problem. (40 years of experience
)
Have you ever seen /used the Frontier ?
Have had 3 Nash bivvies (last was the Double top Mk4 2 man) all 3 had problems
And it is not only in the shop that I have seen / compared bivvies also on the waterfront, my mate had a T100 and has now sold it for the Frontier.
And even though Nash started it 40 years ago they still manage to make trash with fail zippers/seems and water leaks
and I am not saying that the T1 is a bad bivvy (for me personally too small / low) what I do say is that the T1 is not a match for the Frontier, and also weird that the T1 is so good they had to make a T1 MK2 version to solve the water problem. (40 years of experience
)
In reply to Post #10
I've not used one no, I won't give fox a single penny of my hard earned cash after all of the items from them I've had has failed. Anything which is mass produced will end up with a certain number of faults, it's inevitable. But fox have a higher than average fail rate by all accounts. Why do you think that the vast majority of shelters on the bank are either a variation of either the tempest, the titan or the hide? Because they are the best shelters around, that's why
I've not used one no, I won't give fox a single penny of my hard earned cash after all of the items from them I've had has failed. Anything which is mass produced will end up with a certain number of faults, it's inevitable. But fox have a higher than average fail rate by all accounts. Why do you think that the vast majority of shelters on the bank are either a variation of either the tempest, the titan or the hide? Because they are the best shelters around, that's why
In reply to Post #8
Thanks IP, now i understand it. So after reading all your posts, you would recommend Titan TC PRO or rather wait for Hide Camo Pro?
Thanks IP, now i understand it. So after reading all your posts, you would recommend Titan TC PRO or rather wait for Hide Camo Pro?
In reply to Post #11
Nash is one of the most hyped brands (especially in the UK) and very popular with the youngs because of the hype not because of the quality
Believe me when I say that I was very skeptical of the Frontier because of Fox's reputation, but after weeks of comparing and having already used the Frontier 3 times I can say that it is more than worth the money, I could not say that about my Nash Double top mk4 and S7
Nash is one of the most hyped brands (especially in the UK) and very popular with the youngs because of the hype not because of the quality
Believe me when I say that I was very skeptical of the Frontier because of Fox's reputation, but after weeks of comparing and having already used the Frontier 3 times I can say that it is more than worth the money, I could not say that about my Nash Double top mk4 and S7
In reply to Post #13
Lol no it's nothing to with hype, it's to do with what they produce. Do you honestly think there would be so many hides and titans about if they were crap? Of course there wouldn't. Not really sure what the age of anglers has to do with it either, plenty of guys in their 40s 50s etc use Nash's shelters as generally the "Young's" as you call them can't afford them
Lol no it's nothing to with hype, it's to do with what they produce. Do you honestly think there would be so many hides and titans about if they were crap? Of course there wouldn't. Not really sure what the age of anglers has to do with it either, plenty of guys in their 40s 50s etc use Nash's shelters as generally the "Young's" as you call them can't afford them
In reply to Post #12
It depends of the waters you will be fishing really. If they are open to the weather and you get a lot of strong winds then the titan can't be beaten
It depends of the waters you will be fishing really. If they are open to the weather and you get a lot of strong winds then the titan can't be beaten