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Making own boilies/pop ups (55 posts / 8,095 views)
Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #1 5 Apr 2020 08:10
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Gonna have a little go of making my own bait to pass some time - any big do's and don't? And Where's the best place to get gear in - there's so much to pick from recommendations for sort of a 'starter' flavour combos. Anyone swear by any flavours or flavour combos?
Gregc1980
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Post #2 5 Apr 2020 08:55
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Baf pop up mix is probably be the best and John baker plum flavor and solar squid and octopus is a good en to start off with mate
Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #3 5 Apr 2020 09:11
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In reply to Post #2
Thank you, any particular base mix you'd start with just for boilies?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #4 5 Apr 2020 09:22
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Have you ever rolled any bait at all in the past?
ip100 ip100
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Post #5 5 Apr 2020 09:39
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In reply to Post #1
If you've not rolled any in the past then I'd recommend haiths mixes, they just need a little oil to help roll and nothing more. Once you've got the hang of it then you can add bits or make your own mix up. Flavours are up to you, personally I don't bother with them as I don't believe they add anything to a well balanced food bait, other swear by them. Bait is all one big matter of opinion and you will get loads of different answers on here
Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #6 5 Apr 2020 09:57
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Never rolled any bait - need something to occupy my time so thought I'd give it a bash.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #7 5 Apr 2020 10:14
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Ok so I'd pretty much say the same as ian. Before you jump into trying to formulate mixes from scratch. Buy a ready made basemix. Maybe from BAF or Haiths or from a bait manufacturer like Essential etc. Add the liquid they recommend and practice rolling boiling times etc.

I'd actually start just making my own hookbaits first. Try CC Moore's or BAF ready made kits. These are good cos you are only making up small one egg batches at a time. Plus once you've got confidence you can start to add in other powered attractors etc.

Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #8 5 Apr 2020 14:27
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In reply to Post #7
Thanks - had a look going to try 2 of the ready made pop up mixes on the BAF website and see how I go. Nutrabaits seem to have a good range aswell have you tried any of there's?
ip100 ip100
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Post #9 5 Apr 2020 16:38
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In reply to Post #8
Nutrabaits used to be good gear, now I'm not so sure
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #10 5 Apr 2020 17:18
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In reply to Post #8
Nutrabaits of old definitely. New nutrabaits I wouldn't take the risk.
Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #11 5 Apr 2020 19:07
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Both say its rubbish so I'll trust your judgement - do you both roll your own baits a lot or sometimes? Do you find when doing it there better than "shop bought"
ip100 ip100
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Post #12 5 Apr 2020 19:27
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In reply to Post #11
I roll my own baits all the time, it's cheaper than buying off the shelf and I like having something nobody else has. I like to use a mixture of sizes as well as barrels too so buying bags of each means a lot of freezer space is needed, I just roll my bait fresh for each session so don't have any storage issues at all
Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #13 5 Apr 2020 19:30
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In reply to Post #12
I like that idea - I was talked out of it around Christmas time by someone saying its a waste of time (making bait) . For hook baits is it easier to roll by hand, I'll just start with hook baits for now or would you get a gun and rolling table (small gardener one) also any other bits of kit you'd recommend?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #14 5 Apr 2020 19:47
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In reply to Post #13
I rolled my own bait a lot going back about 18-20 years ago. I got quite into it and set up a bait area in my garage at the time with a compressor, one of the cox guns, burco etc. I think it's a really interesting dimension to the hobby and I found it enjoyable. These days however I only make hookbaits, I sold all my bait making gear as to be honest the quality of bought bait kept getting better and better and the price of the raw ingredients kept getting dearer until I was thinking I'd have to buy large amounts of stuff, with storage issues etc to keep the price down, and in the end I switched to bought bait. To be honest though I've not bought a full price bait for years so that swayed my decision to give up.

I do still like tinkering with hookbaits though. In fact I use way more of my own cork balls and air balls now than I ever did. I've only just made a batch but already I'm thinking next week I want to play with some other liquids so I might end up doing another loads just for the hell of it.

With regards to rolling I'd suggest even for hookbaits that you invest in a Gardner small rolling table and the matching sized sausage roller table. If you try to hand roll everything without one at the start you risk two things, firstly you might not compress the mix enough, you'll get air pockets in your baits and when they dry they might split. Secondly the thing with pop ups is you want consistency. It's a ball ache if they are all different sizes and therefore require different amounts of counter balancing.
Gibbalicious Gibbalicious
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Post #15 5 Apr 2020 21:48
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Sounds like it's deffinetly worth rolling hook baits then. I'll deffinetly try it out I'll get the stuff ordered tonight and hopefully be able to get out to test it. I appreciate all the advice. Hopefully il get onto something then that really works. Where do you get your flavours? Do you use powdered or liquid flavours sweeteners etc? I'm going with the prepared kits from BAF to start as I like the look of them.

Appreciate all the advice off both of you think your both local to me too 👍👍👍👍
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