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Pond keepers (130 posts / 14,431 views)
fishie fishie
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Post #124 10 May 2019 10:55
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Am swerving goldfish as per previous posts when talking about fish i am not going to overload the pond as its been sold to the Mrs as a wildlife feature and not a match lake

I am going for a maximum of 6 ghosties, a few other carp and now some small cheapish koi, some tench and possibly a couple of sturgeon. All a small size to start with and with lots of hiding places so hopefully they will feel comfortable to parade regularly.

it is not going to bottom drained, but a pump and external filter and the I am hoping in time the pond will survive on its own with minimal feeding from me and will be left to grow with minimal input in controlling vegetation. i am leaning towards a natural enviroment and not a pedicured Koi pond.

I am now looking for one of those small Fox shop model bivvies, I had one a few years ago but would like another and will build a small pod, rods etc..... I know its tacky but each to their own
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #125 10 May 2019 11:24
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Watch out for otters.
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #126 10 May 2019 12:28
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If you stock small sturgeon be careful not to have weed in the pond as they have no reverse gear they swim into it and cannot get back out they do not how the explosion of power when small to push on through, the little spikes that grow along the lateral line gets them all rattled up.
Bigcarpchaser Bigcarpchaser
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Post #127 11 May 2019 18:25
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Marginal shelf's are great for herons to wade in. Be wary
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #128 13 May 2019 22:18
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I went with the 'natural look, much prefer it to the 'Koi Tank' that some people like, does take a bit of upkeep though, good job I own several pairs of waders

ip100 ip100
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Post #130 13 May 2019 22:33
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Very nice
razorback razorback
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Post #131 13 May 2019 22:47
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Pizza Pizza
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Post #132 14 May 2019 05:40
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Very good work on that
Shark Shark
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Post #133 14 May 2019 08:39
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Looks fantastic, well done, but how do you keep the herons away and stop them eating all the fish. I have a small pond and have to keep it covered or I would lose the lot to herons.
Cheers
Enut Enut
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Post #134 14 May 2019 09:56
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That's really nice. I have two ponds and know what you mean about the upkeep. Last winter I drained the smaller one and got out 30 wheelbarrows full of crap off the bottom, despite a filter system and pond skimmer, it's in the shade of a big tree which means it gets lots of fallen leaves etc and even the best filtration can't keep it at bay.

By the way if the pond is big/deep enough herons shouldn't be too much of a problem. We have one visit frequently and whilst he takes fish they certainly reproduce quickly enough that he has a never ending supply.

I have a picture of a kingfisher fishing from the bridge on my pond, I'm quite proud about that.
ip100 ip100
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Post #135 14 May 2019 10:03
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Put yourself a string of old line around, 3 rows spaced about 5 inches apart and that stops them
fishie fishie
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Post #136 14 May 2019 11:16
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Another for the natural look. i admit Koi in a Koi pond look stunning but i am hoping for a more biodiverse pond with frogs,toads, etc.....

The hole has been started today and my mate was sure that 6.5m x 4m x1m would fit into 1 skip
ip100 ip100
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Post #137 14 May 2019 11:19
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Still sticking to only 1m deep then?
fishie fishie
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Post #138 14 May 2019 11:55
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Unfortunately yes as the Mrs wouldn't go for any deeper as its her pond and its near the house, but if it goes well she has agreed for another extension to be dug at 5 feet deep next to it and then joined via a 2 foot channel basically doubling the surface area size . the garden is about half an acre in size so will accept the extension the joining channel will be protected by mesh to stop herons

So winner winner chicken dinner
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #140 14 May 2019 14:35
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Have had visits from heron's over the years and early on I think they had some fish. Usually now the local seagulls make such a racket when one appears that it alerts you to it being there, sometimes they even see it off 'Battle Of Britain' style

Herons are very sensitive and only have to see you move or hear the back door open (or the dog charging towards them) and they scarper, . Apart from one particular one that was about 4' tall, gnarly looking thing that let me get within about 3 feet of it before it ****ed off, that was a bit spooky.

The ponds about 4' deep in the middle and with all the lilies the fish have plenty of hiding places. I can usually tell if we've had a visit though while we've been out as the fish are nowhere to be seen and need coaxing back out from cover with some food.
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