ok Dean - turned number 3 off because frankly - she can just f*ck off

sorry fella but if that's your best source of information then you need to look harder - and in places where it's not just a load of bullsh*t statements with no attempt to back them up at all

peace and love man

In reply to Post #61
Oh Gosh Mal,

you surprise me. Actually, i am not surprised because most people like yourself as i explained earlier will only sit through what their brains perceive as near to the truth (as they see it) or how their brains have been programmed by the media and other channels through repetitive loop conditioning. To see what is out there I myself have sat through countless hours from start to finish, as,imo, that is the ONLY way to get the full picture and spectrum of what potentially is going on and the reasoning behind the narrative.

I see many of you asking to be shown valid clips and links to support theories. Do your own homework. It is out there for you all to read, watch and base your own opinions.However remember, you need an open mind for this which is obvious most of you are struggleing with. Tell me Mal, out of the 3 parts that you say you have watched, what are you mostly struggling with?

As for those steel beams in the Twin towers bending or weakening under the heat from aviation fuel, That is probably the biggest crock of twaddle i have heard on this patticular subject. Those towers and many many more which were constructed years before were designed to withstand vast stresses from impact and heat. Do you know the temperature needed to even distort steel beams the thickness of those cores within the towers? Then take the heat generated by aviation fuel and how long that takes to burn off and you may think hard about upping your medication for making such a statement. I apologise for being so hard, but in the history of fires on American high rises, find me one that has collapsed form ANY FIRE. The fact that a plane went into each has absolutely no bearing on the results. Also when a building of that size falls from impact, the inertia from said impact will cause it to fall that way. Have a look at the construction videos of those twin towers and the core strength built into them.The impact of those planes were equivalent of a fly hitting your windscreen at 90mph.

Now, the trouble with most of these threads is, the absolute 5hite people spout without even attaempting to do their own research and those that have half a brain answer questions with questions like a politition to divert the attention back onto that person. We are taught that in sales training and very effective it is too.

Wayne, you seem to be getting a bit of a hard time my friend. I see those that are unable to give constructive debate or input any meaningful contribution have hopped over from the cv thread after telling you to start your own thread. Must be getting as bored as i was reading about fricking face masks, which, when worn for any length of time lowers the wearers immunity by trapping carbon dioxide, thus reducing your bodies ability to fight any viral obligate pathogens.
As i said before gents. Make your reasons better than your excuses and please do your homework.

There is a saying by Mark Twain which goes " It is easier to fool people, than to convince them they have been fooled"

Have a good day Gents.

In reply to Post #62
repetitive loop conditioning

I myself have sat through countless hours from start to finish

In reply to Post #62
morning Dean

I did point out already some of the things that I was taking issue with but you've not responded yet - hopefully you will as I do love a discussion.

It's nothing to do with your misconception that my brain has been programmed to not see 'the truth'. The 3 videos I watched were full of inaccuracies, manipulative use of stock imagery and a long list of unsubstantiated statements.

if you have something better for me to look at then I'll give it a go as I'm not someone who dismisses all suggestion of government lies - Weapons of Mass destruction anyone?

but that particular set just don't cut it. It might be enough for some, but really enquiring minds need more.

Have a good day and stay safe

edit - 906

In reply to Post #62
Hi Dean, haven't watched your videos as yet but will give them a go when I get chance.
Just a quick question on the twin towers if I may?
why the need for the thermite? were planes hitting the towers not enough? did 'they' think planes hitting the towers wouldn't be enough to get the public on side if they didn't fall?

In reply to Post #62
Wayne, you seem to be getting a bit of a hard time my friend

Nothing I can't handle, especially as I have baited up so much for a take.......

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Hey Wayne, I'm a very open minded guy and will apply my own logic to things, question my own thoughts and those of others, my mind is certainly not set.
in the corona thread you suggested anyone who doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job is a moron, as I've said I'm genuinely interested in what you believe the real story to be? you mentioned tower 7 and pentagon but the only vaguely supporting evidence you gave was a bbc misreport, which you have confirmed yourself how it was misreported in human error.
Again I am open to there being elements of an inside job on 9/11

In reply to Post #67
which you have confirmed yourself how it was misreported in human error

I dont think i did Tom, The fact building 7 was not touched by a plane, had a fire on 1 floor only which incidentally was the floor for the CIA and SS yet collapses raises so many questions. The original report into 911 says the building was damaged by a plane which weakend the structure and thats why it collapsed.

The BBC reported it because it came from their reporter on the ground, yes it could have been misinterepted but the fact the SS were telling everyone to go because of the pending collapse and then the fact it collapsed like a controlled demo from the centre to fall into itself stinks of a cover up!

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Hi Wayne, forgive me if I'm being stupid but I don't see how people seeing a burning building that's on fire thinking it may collapse and then it collapsing, as being evidence of a controlled demolition?
also fires were on 10 floors not just one, and why did they need to collapse it, if the fires were on the floors with all the cia secret stuff then surely that was enough to hide any evidence, even if they put the fires out the building would be condemned and brought down anyway?

In reply to Post #61
Quite frankly Mal The " she can go fcuk off" was my reaction too when i got the end and if i am brutally honest just a short way in. Now, i am not for one moment asking you to believe everything within those films, merely open your mind to the possibility that some of which she has told you could possibly be true. Christ, if you think what you have seen is hard to get your head around then. type in "Pizza Gate". That will really make your dung go tizzy.

I believe if we were to be told the truth, none of us would be able to process it all. It would all be too much for us to handle.

However, from child trafficking, to satanic worship, to Adrenochrome from young children ( now that really is a shocking subject).All this and more is being undertaken by presidents, royals, government officials and Hollywoods finest. and members of the vatican.

Type in Out of shadows and watch this. A more realistic and better produced documentary form 2 of Hollywoods finest stunt men. A shocking revelation yet very much an eye opener into this sadistic world. You will struggle to come to terms or even believe what you are being told, but from countless other accounts, i am now a firm believer that this is going on. Tom Hanks and more vehemently Mel Gibson along with a couple of young stars have come out to tell people what is happening.Please Watch it and please give me your thoughts.

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Rumour has it that Tommy Robinson is part of the new world order and was tasked by the late Jimmy Saville with creating an anti-Islam smoke screen.
Don't even get me started on the fake death of Tupac who was a trained explosives expert and last seen entering an air duct of the WTC holding a stick of dynamite and a box of swan vestas

In reply to Post #70
I watched this a while ago. The only bit I struggled to come to terms with was the lack of evidence or research into the whole point. The "do your own research" message is cobbler's. How's that possible without me believing someone I don't know and have no idea of their agenda?

In reply to Post #70
hiya dean - it's not hard to get my head around. it's just a lot of what I already said.

I'll try the other suggestion - maybe not today as I'm watching Project Blue Book (which i think you might enjoy - USAF covering up UFO stuff. It's good fun)

on the idea of things coming out in time, I'm a big fan of a German playwright and director called Bertolt Brecht. He moved to the US to try and crack Hollywood and was under surveillance from the FBI for 13 years. there was a 50 year (i think) shelf life on the files being classified and then they had to be released, so out of interest I got a copy. pages of the most boring stuff I've ever seen....

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Official report says 10 floors, your eyes showed you 1 floor........

In reply to Post #74
my eyes showed me visible fires from windows of at least 2 floors and smoke billowing from windows of multiple floors.
again can you explain the logic behind the whole building having to be brought down by controlled demolition?