In reply to Post #58
Yes You can access all the wiring by taking out the large battery tray and i am sure carplounge would agree to you fixing something simple yourself rather than pay to have it sent back and returned.They wouldnt know anyway as its just a couple of screws to lift the whole thing out .I had a problem with the toslon 640 being inaccurate i took all the parts out of the boat through this tray and returned it with the base unit and replaced the lot ,the fault ended up being with the toslon base unit.Tony what is the autopilot like is it reliable and accurate simple to use ?
Yes You can access all the wiring by taking out the large battery tray and i am sure carplounge would agree to you fixing something simple yourself rather than pay to have it sent back and returned.They wouldnt know anyway as its just a couple of screws to lift the whole thing out .I had a problem with the toslon 640 being inaccurate i took all the parts out of the boat through this tray and returned it with the base unit and replaced the lot ,the fault ended up being with the toslon base unit.Tony what is the autopilot like is it reliable and accurate simple to use ?
In reply to Post #61
Its been fine on open banks in calm weather, but where I am pike fishing I am under trees and it struggles so I set it to return10 yards out. Returning to same baited spots it has been accurate.
Its been fine on open banks in calm weather, but where I am pike fishing I am under trees and it struggles so I set it to return10 yards out. Returning to same baited spots it has been accurate.
In reply to Post #62
Tony please don't take anything personally..lively debate is always healthy
It's just when comparing stuff you really need more to go on than the stated reasons.
Tony please don't take anything personally..lively debate is always healthy
It's just when comparing stuff you really need more to go on than the stated reasons.
I got my wires crossed on this debate. I was thinking that the X Boat was aCarp Madness bait boat for some reason 
I did not look at X Boat or it's website. Sorry
I did not look at X Boat or it's website. Sorry
In reply to Post #64
I have owned an Xboat for a year now and its been well hammered. I tarted up with a toslon 640 and Xpilot. From my perspective as an owner and frequent user, i can offer the following review.
Build quality is superb and has operated flawlessly since I got it. I went for the Xboat as it had an extended warranty (2years) and was supplied and supported within the UK by Tom at Xboat UK. Xpilot is superb if you are lazy like me and the boat travels true, no zig zagging etc etc. It takes up to 5kg of bait (yes, i have filled both hoppers when in France). Used it to up to 200 yards ith no issues. Boat speed is about 0.8 m/s empty and 0.7m/s fully loaded and with standard props (these can be upgraded if a little more poke is required)
I have never owned an RT4 and did consider one while i was looking around but the general negative views on a lot of sites regarding reliability put me off completely. For me, reliability is the number one factor if you are parting with over 2 grand for a toy and up to now i havnt seen any negative feedback on xboats from owners (and there are plenty out there). If i ever want to upgrade or downgrade, i can do this myself, its all plug and play without any boat splitting for access.
So, im a very happy bunny with my xboat and would recommend it.
I dont work or support Toslon btw so please dont flame me!
I cant knock the RT4 as i have never even seen one in rea life and cant comment apart from third party negative comments regarding its reliability, but i can offer my experience of the xboat as an actual owner/user
I have owned an Xboat for a year now and its been well hammered. I tarted up with a toslon 640 and Xpilot. From my perspective as an owner and frequent user, i can offer the following review.
Build quality is superb and has operated flawlessly since I got it. I went for the Xboat as it had an extended warranty (2years) and was supplied and supported within the UK by Tom at Xboat UK. Xpilot is superb if you are lazy like me and the boat travels true, no zig zagging etc etc. It takes up to 5kg of bait (yes, i have filled both hoppers when in France). Used it to up to 200 yards ith no issues. Boat speed is about 0.8 m/s empty and 0.7m/s fully loaded and with standard props (these can be upgraded if a little more poke is required)
I have never owned an RT4 and did consider one while i was looking around but the general negative views on a lot of sites regarding reliability put me off completely. For me, reliability is the number one factor if you are parting with over 2 grand for a toy and up to now i havnt seen any negative feedback on xboats from owners (and there are plenty out there). If i ever want to upgrade or downgrade, i can do this myself, its all plug and play without any boat splitting for access.
So, im a very happy bunny with my xboat and would recommend it.
I dont work or support Toslon btw so please dont flame me!
I cant knock the RT4 as i have never even seen one in rea life and cant comment apart from third party negative comments regarding its reliability, but i can offer my experience of the xboat as an actual owner/user
In reply to Post #64
Dp
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In reply to Post #65
Thanks for the review jurgen as for general negative views i think generally the reviews are good and one of the most repetitive moaners on several sites has been somebody who isnt the sharpest knife and its been user stupidity .As for my boat and my friends rt4,s they have been the most reliable we have owned.Does the xboat come with a humped shape shell
Thanks for the review jurgen as for general negative views i think generally the reviews are good and one of the most repetitive moaners on several sites has been somebody who isnt the sharpest knife and its been user stupidity .As for my boat and my friends rt4,s they have been the most reliable we have owned.Does the xboat come with a humped shape shell
In reply to Post #67
Not sure what you mean about the humped shaped shell, please explain?
Not sure what you mean about the humped shaped shell, please explain?
In reply to Post #68
Hi Jurgen,
Thanks for that
You take the prize for possibly the first person to do a sort of review on the Xboat
Have you had it out in any rough weather or on "big" waters? If so an honest perception on how it performs would be helpful
Best
Jon
Hi Jurgen,
Thanks for that
You take the prize for possibly the first person to do a sort of review on the Xboat
Have you had it out in any rough weather or on "big" waters? If so an honest perception on how it performs would be helpful
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #65
Hi mate great review... just a quick quistion.
Why did you go for the 640 instead of the 500 considering your also using the xpilot. Does the 640 do alot more than the 500 taking away the gps?
Cheers
Hi mate great review... just a quick quistion.
Why did you go for the 640 instead of the 500 considering your also using the xpilot. Does the 640 do alot more than the 500 taking away the gps?
Cheers
In reply to Post #69
Hi Jon, its been out in relatively choppy water but not big waves etc. Tbh i would not send any boat out in very windy/choppy conditions in case i lost it for any reason! Biggest water its been on is about 10 acres. The xpilot corrected positioning at all times to compensate for any cross wind or tow etc
Hi Jon, its been out in relatively choppy water but not big waves etc. Tbh i would not send any boat out in very windy/choppy conditions in case i lost it for any reason! Biggest water its been on is about 10 acres. The xpilot corrected positioning at all times to compensate for any cross wind or tow etc
In reply to Post #70
The xpilot is accurate to plus or minus 5m but in reality (measured via the 640) this has been plus or minus 3m. I got the 640 as well as this is acvurate to plus or minus 1m and allows for fine tuning when dropping baits etc at the chosen point. Its as accurate as any cast without having to cast accurately. Tbh, the 500 has a bigger screen and for me thats a plus. The 640 has a compass but if you have the xpilot then no compass required. The 640 does save marks via its gps and displays the route etc so could be used instead of the xpilot but then its a manual pilot jobby. I prefer the autopilot as i can do stuff while its on its way out and on its way back, im lazy and impatient so it works perfect for me.
So the 640 allows for fine tuning of bait placement and saving of points. If im honest, i think the xpilot and tf500 is more than adequate. The 640 and 500 both need manual drive when the point is reached and you can check this via the screen. Alternatively, without the xpilot i would go for the 640 alone and manually drive to the saved waypoint. Im unashamedly a tart so got both the xpilot and 640 out of choice
The xpilot is accurate to plus or minus 5m but in reality (measured via the 640) this has been plus or minus 3m. I got the 640 as well as this is acvurate to plus or minus 1m and allows for fine tuning when dropping baits etc at the chosen point. Its as accurate as any cast without having to cast accurately. Tbh, the 500 has a bigger screen and for me thats a plus. The 640 has a compass but if you have the xpilot then no compass required. The 640 does save marks via its gps and displays the route etc so could be used instead of the xpilot but then its a manual pilot jobby. I prefer the autopilot as i can do stuff while its on its way out and on its way back, im lazy and impatient so it works perfect for me.
So the 640 allows for fine tuning of bait placement and saving of points. If im honest, i think the xpilot and tf500 is more than adequate. The 640 and 500 both need manual drive when the point is reached and you can check this via the screen. Alternatively, without the xpilot i would go for the 640 alone and manually drive to the saved waypoint. Im unashamedly a tart so got both the xpilot and 640 out of choice
In reply to Post #72
Didnt mention battery life in my mini review. Tbh, havnt a clue how it compares with any other boat but what I can say is that a standard set lasted more than required for 2 anglers fishing 3 rods at an average 100m+ for 4 “recasts” per day for all rods. I put a freshly charged set in at the start of each day and havnt totally drained then in use. Well more than enough imho.
Didnt mention battery life in my mini review. Tbh, havnt a clue how it compares with any other boat but what I can say is that a standard set lasted more than required for 2 anglers fishing 3 rods at an average 100m+ for 4 “recasts” per day for all rods. I put a freshly charged set in at the start of each day and havnt totally drained then in use. Well more than enough imho.
In reply to Post #68
It was a joke jurgen regards the speed ie tortoise.5M accuracy on the autopilot is poor not sure what the accuracy on the carplounge or raymarine is but if it was that far out i will forget thinking about getting it there is no point you may as well cast.Doesnt using a autopilot then homing in with another device kind of defeat the object. you may as well just steer the boat manualy its very quick with the rt4 and sounds like far more messing about .On my last trip abroad on a very weedy water i was able to drop in small clear spots with the 640 and being that far off my spots would have resulted in being biteless.Unless i have my wires cross reading between the lines it sounds like a crock of chit
It was a joke jurgen regards the speed ie tortoise.5M accuracy on the autopilot is poor not sure what the accuracy on the carplounge or raymarine is but if it was that far out i will forget thinking about getting it there is no point you may as well cast.Doesnt using a autopilot then homing in with another device kind of defeat the object. you may as well just steer the boat manualy its very quick with the rt4 and sounds like far more messing about .On my last trip abroad on a very weedy water i was able to drop in small clear spots with the 640 and being that far off my spots would have resulted in being biteless.Unless i have my wires cross reading between the lines it sounds like a crock of chit
In reply to Post #74
Each to their own esox. Im just adding my real life objective views as a very satisfied owner and user of the Xboat and associated “chit” for the original OP. Simple as that. What boat do you use? Be interested in your objective views on yours.......or are you a RT4 sheep who wont hear anything about other boats or associated kit? Either way, enjoy yours as much as i do mine
Each to their own esox. Im just adding my real life objective views as a very satisfied owner and user of the Xboat and associated “chit” for the original OP. Simple as that. What boat do you use? Be interested in your objective views on yours.......or are you a RT4 sheep who wont hear anything about other boats or associated kit? Either way, enjoy yours as much as i do mine