In reply to Post #84
that stated that there use was detremental to peoples catch rates due to the scent it left on your hookbait, pva bags, terminal tackle,
I can put my hand on my heart here and tell you truthfully that the gel I use (Desderman) has never had a negative effect on my fishing. It is true that a slight flowery smell lingers after the gel has evaporated but this soon wears off. I use the stuff by the bucketful and have had no problems along these lines whatsoever.
that stated that there use was detremental to peoples catch rates due to the scent it left on your hookbait, pva bags, terminal tackle,
I can put my hand on my heart here and tell you truthfully that the gel I use (Desderman) has never had a negative effect on my fishing. It is true that a slight flowery smell lingers after the gel has evaporated but this soon wears off. I use the stuff by the bucketful and have had no problems along these lines whatsoever.
In reply to Post #90
Have you any notice of others anglers whit same problems
There is a very good article in this months Carpworld, if you can get hold of a copy in Italy.
Yes, you are correct, no vaccine exists, contrary to some opinions.
As for Roberto, I guess that is up to him to suggest an article. I cannot dictate to any of my editors what I will write...They tell me: not the other way round!!
Have you any notice of others anglers whit same problems
There is a very good article in this months Carpworld, if you can get hold of a copy in Italy.
Yes, you are correct, no vaccine exists, contrary to some opinions.
As for Roberto, I guess that is up to him to suggest an article. I cannot dictate to any of my editors what I will write...They tell me: not the other way round!!
In reply to Post #91
I cant for the life of me remember which mag i read it in Ken. It was a well known angler basically saying that he thought that any foreign smells on the hooklength, hookbait, tubing, etc would put the fish off. He didnt just say hand gels either, he mentioned marker pens, deodrants, aftershave, hand creams, sun block, insect repellant spray,etc. Basically anything that could get on your hands and leave a scent. Iam going to trawl through my magazines and try and find the article if its the last thing i ever do.
I cant for the life of me remember which mag i read it in Ken. It was a well known angler basically saying that he thought that any foreign smells on the hooklength, hookbait, tubing, etc would put the fish off. He didnt just say hand gels either, he mentioned marker pens, deodrants, aftershave, hand creams, sun block, insect repellant spray,etc. Basically anything that could get on your hands and leave a scent. Iam going to trawl through my magazines and try and find the article if its the last thing i ever do.
In reply to Post #93
In reply to Post #93
I seem to remember reading the same article.....I bought a metal stone type thing (from one of those granny mags you get in the sunday papers) which helps to remove all traces of odour from your hands.....if only i remembered to take it fishing with me
I have found that rubbing a few pellets in your hands for a minute or two will help mask most smells
I seem to remember reading the same article.....I bought a metal stone type thing (from one of those granny mags you get in the sunday papers) which helps to remove all traces of odour from your hands.....if only i remembered to take it fishing with me
I have found that rubbing a few pellets in your hands for a minute or two will help mask most smells
In reply to Post #95
Important thread Ken.
I know a lad who got it and luckily recovered. Nice to see you also made a full recovery mate
Important thread Ken.
I know a lad who got it and luckily recovered. Nice to see you also made a full recovery mate
In reply to Post #96
Well done for bringing it into the spot light Keneth...
I told you some time ago you were the bloke to make people aware of it fella, 1st hand experience and all that.!
I too had a freind who died form Weils here in France(incedently, France is one of the highest risk countries), it took 5 days to kill him! he had eaten food that a rat had pissed on so it was a direct hit! he deteriated rapidly and died in hospital!!
WHY?..... well I''ll tell you, The reason he died,is because the doctors had no idea what was wrong with him, and thats it!
He had the flu symptoms and all that, left it because suspected nothing, then wound up in a coma(spelling?) and was unable, obviously at that stage to inform doctors of his last movements.
If they had known he was out on the river night fishing, then they may have looked in the right direction.
As I said to you a while back Ken, and I still think it''s an idea that would work....
If all anglers carried an information card in their wallet (like a credit card size)or an alternative format, which mentioned the fact that they are effectivley a potential candidate for Weils disease due to their activities in high risk areas.
This would eliminate the risk of the victims found with advanced symptoms being unable to inform the doctors of what they have been upto, and in turn saving their lives, by saving time with diagnosis.!
The money raised by the sale of these information cards, could be used to increase awareness of the problem amongst anglers, via the angling press, and forums such as this one.
Put it this way... I would have no problem paying 2/3 quid for the info card myself, knowing that it could save my life if I was found in a swim some where, and unable to let the doctors know what I had been up to.
It would cover you for every country, as medical terms are international.
What d''ya reckon?
Well done for bringing it into the spot light Keneth...
I told you some time ago you were the bloke to make people aware of it fella, 1st hand experience and all that.!
I too had a freind who died form Weils here in France(incedently, France is one of the highest risk countries), it took 5 days to kill him! he had eaten food that a rat had pissed on so it was a direct hit! he deteriated rapidly and died in hospital!!
WHY?..... well I''ll tell you, The reason he died,is because the doctors had no idea what was wrong with him, and thats it!
He had the flu symptoms and all that, left it because suspected nothing, then wound up in a coma(spelling?) and was unable, obviously at that stage to inform doctors of his last movements.
If they had known he was out on the river night fishing, then they may have looked in the right direction.
As I said to you a while back Ken, and I still think it''s an idea that would work....
If all anglers carried an information card in their wallet (like a credit card size)or an alternative format, which mentioned the fact that they are effectivley a potential candidate for Weils disease due to their activities in high risk areas.
This would eliminate the risk of the victims found with advanced symptoms being unable to inform the doctors of what they have been upto, and in turn saving their lives, by saving time with diagnosis.!
The money raised by the sale of these information cards, could be used to increase awareness of the problem amongst anglers, via the angling press, and forums such as this one.
Put it this way... I would have no problem paying 2/3 quid for the info card myself, knowing that it could save my life if I was found in a swim some where, and unable to let the doctors know what I had been up to.
It would cover you for every country, as medical terms are international.
What d''ya reckon?
In reply to Post #97
I had it meself in 87, at the time they thought i had meningitis when i collapsed shortly after returning from fishing, it was only cos of my young age at the time that i feel i got through it.Was given a lumberpuncture(not nice to say the least but that was the least of my problems) and spent 2 weeks very seriously ill in hospital. it wasnt until a smart doctor suggested leptospiral jaundice that they had any idea what was actually wrong with me. been carrying a card in my kit indicating the risk ever since. Back then we always had signs that rodents had been eating the fat from the frying pan but thought that a few minutes over a burner would kill anything dodgy. Got to say im a little bit more carefull nowadays!.
I had it meself in 87, at the time they thought i had meningitis when i collapsed shortly after returning from fishing, it was only cos of my young age at the time that i feel i got through it.Was given a lumberpuncture(not nice to say the least but that was the least of my problems) and spent 2 weeks very seriously ill in hospital. it wasnt until a smart doctor suggested leptospiral jaundice that they had any idea what was actually wrong with me. been carrying a card in my kit indicating the risk ever since. Back then we always had signs that rodents had been eating the fat from the frying pan but thought that a few minutes over a burner would kill anything dodgy. Got to say im a little bit more carefull nowadays!.
In reply to Post #98
Hey Nick, how ya doing mate...
So did you make your own card up then?
Best keep it in your wallet mate! as if your found they will look through your wallet for help, but I doubt if they would rumage through all the kit.
Hey Nick, how ya doing mate...
So did you make your own card up then?
Best keep it in your wallet mate! as if your found they will look through your wallet for help, but I doubt if they would rumage through all the kit.
In reply to Post #99
Elo m8,doing great thanks,hows life in sunny france?. Always give you a beep as we fly past on our way south!, keep meaning to pop in for a social but on the way out im always keen to get angling and on the way back it seems im always flat out trying to make the ferry on time, lol.This year tho i promise il stop and say hello.My card was given to me by the doctors m8,like a credit card it is and advises how im at high risk because of my profession. i carry it with my permits and licences to this day
Elo m8,doing great thanks,hows life in sunny france?. Always give you a beep as we fly past on our way south!, keep meaning to pop in for a social but on the way out im always keen to get angling and on the way back it seems im always flat out trying to make the ferry on time, lol.This year tho i promise il stop and say hello.My card was given to me by the doctors m8,like a credit card it is and advises how im at high risk because of my profession. i carry it with my permits and licences to this day
nick, luke, the weils information cards for anglers is a great idea, maybe tackle shops should sell them or make them available. i always carry mine with me as i was issued one whilst i worked on the railways.
In reply to Post #102
That's excellent news, So anyone of us could simply, ask the doctor, and obtain a card which could one day save your life!
(would be good to have them even more available,as Paul suggests)
You may well have told me about that card a while back Nick, would explain where the idea come from !
My memory is shot to bits fella, can't think why.....
That's excellent news, So anyone of us could simply, ask the doctor, and obtain a card which could one day save your life!
(would be good to have them even more available,as Paul suggests)
You may well have told me about that card a while back Nick, would explain where the idea come from !
My memory is shot to bits fella, can't think why.....
In reply to Post #103
Hi Luke: NIce to hear from you again. Mum's at last in a home now her Alzheimer's has got so bad so maybe I'll be able to get out to your pIace sometime?
I carry one of these 4"x 2" laminated notices in my wallet, my fishing tackle box and my car.
Hi Luke: NIce to hear from you again. Mum's at last in a home now her Alzheimer's has got so bad so maybe I'll be able to get out to your pIace sometime?
I carry one of these 4"x 2" laminated notices in my wallet, my fishing tackle box and my car.
In reply to Post #104
cheers Ken now i just have to find out what weils disease is in Polish !! Yes they dont use latin names here, makes the doctors a nightmare.
we dont have rat problems on lakes as they have a lot of predators but i am not taking any chances
cheers Ken now i just have to find out what weils disease is in Polish !! Yes they dont use latin names here, makes the doctors a nightmare.
we dont have rat problems on lakes as they have a lot of predators but i am not taking any chances
In reply to Post #105
Alright fellas, can't sort the Polish for you mate unfortunatley, but here it all is in French for you.
( be a stratergy move to have it on the back if anyone's making their own cards up! 4x the risk here!!)
NOTICE POUR LE MEDECINE
Au cas ou, vous me trouvez avec des symptomes de Grippe, ou en condition plus grave...
SVP, Faites moi le test de la Bacterie "LEPTOSPIROSIS".
Alright fellas, can't sort the Polish for you mate unfortunatley, but here it all is in French for you.
( be a stratergy move to have it on the back if anyone's making their own cards up! 4x the risk here!!)
NOTICE POUR LE MEDECINE
Au cas ou, vous me trouvez avec des symptomes de Grippe, ou en condition plus grave...
SVP, Faites moi le test de la Bacterie "LEPTOSPIROSIS".