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ESP Quickdraw Rods (96 posts / 11,578 views)
ip100 ip100
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Post #46 5 Jan 2022 19:13
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But you are saying scopes cost more than they actually do?! They aren't overpriced when you look at the fittings,blank, and also against comparable rods
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #47 5 Jan 2022 20:53
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I going by 10ft scopes on total tackle and ad websites take a look also 9ft 3llb are £185
ip100 ip100
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Post #48 5 Jan 2022 21:23
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You can buy them for less elsewhere so your point doesn't really make sense
cornish-carper cornish-carper
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Post #49 5 Jan 2022 21:49
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Daiwa crosscast retractables look a decent rod for the money.
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #50 5 Jan 2022 22:09
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Just looked they look good you can't go wrong for £75 and a good company like daiwa they start at £63 bargain
dickweed dickweed
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Post #51 6 Jan 2022 08:34
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Looks like Nash are ripping folks off. Not the first time.
Spod Spod
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Post #52 6 Jan 2022 09:11
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Why are Nash ripping people off....
dickweed dickweed
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Post #53 6 Jan 2022 09:34
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Because the cost does not reflect the quality.

Are the rods we are taking about built on a Harrison blank / or something similar that's know for quality?
ip100 ip100
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Post #54 6 Jan 2022 09:40
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You do realise that a Harrison blank can cost what a complete scope costs? And could the same not be said for any rod manufacturer that sells rods over £150?
Spod Spod
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Post #55 6 Jan 2022 09:50
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But the Scope is completely different rod....a Dwarf is a better comparison but the Scope is a superior blank. As to whether it is worth the money that is down to the individual but to say Nash are ripping people off is just a cheap shot.
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #56 6 Jan 2022 09:57
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People talk about rod fittings in the early 90s some rod companies starting putting Fuji reel seats on there cheap range to make them more attractive

and as for minimas a lot of rod builder's have said that they like it when people ask for them because they are a cheap ring and they make more money on them and some top rod builders won't use them at all
ip100 ip100
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Post #57 6 Jan 2022 10:36
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Fuji do more than one reel seat.....your points make no sense at all
noj
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Fuji reel seats are below a tenner, retail. Probably about £1.20 for mass production.
Higher modulus blanks are lighter, have thinner walls, recover quicker and cast (certain loads) better.
Lower modulus costs less and take knocks better but are heavy and sloppy in comparison.
These are really the only differences with these retractable rods and only so many factories make the blanks which is why they're very similar in performance and appearance at each price point across the board.
dickweed dickweed
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Post #59 6 Jan 2022 12:19
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Yes, it's not just Nash that are making very high gross profit margins.
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #60 6 Jan 2022 12:21
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Makes sense what you said that's how there made so cheap when someone put a thread up on here sometime ago saying he found scopes to look on alibaba site he couldn't believe the price
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