In reply to Post #29
Yes, I'm not one of the people questioning you Mozzi. I only ever really use a balanced bottom bait but it's usually a heavier bait combined with something buoyant. I just always use a d rig with a mono or flouro hooklink. I'm surprised that people use the Ronnie with all that metal and gubbins for the same effect. Not knocking it though, might be worth a try (but probably won't
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Yes, I'm not one of the people questioning you Mozzi. I only ever really use a balanced bottom bait but it's usually a heavier bait combined with something buoyant. I just always use a d rig with a mono or flouro hooklink. I'm surprised that people use the Ronnie with all that metal and gubbins for the same effect. Not knocking it though, might be worth a try (but probably won't
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In reply to Post #29
Which is just as well with the quality of some of the "pop-ups" out there.....
Why don't the vast majority of bait companies make hi attract or hardened standard bottom baits? That may be why wafters are used - most decent bottom baits with solubles wouldn't last long enough on the hair/bait screw, so people use the next best thing
Which is just as well with the quality of some of the "pop-ups" out there.....
Why don't the vast majority of bait companies make hi attract or hardened standard bottom baits? That may be why wafters are used - most decent bottom baits with solubles wouldn't last long enough on the hair/bait screw, so people use the next best thing
In reply to Post #32
An irony that I'm rebaiting with a nice little snowman including a HARD HOOKER 😉
Any bait that lasts 24 hours on the hair in my opinion carp don't usually trough through relentlessly, with cell being the word exception, seen people have cell freezer baits on the hair and re use the same bait for a 72 hour session. I think it must have Imodium in the recipe lol
An irony that I'm rebaiting with a nice little snowman including a HARD HOOKER 😉
Any bait that lasts 24 hours on the hair in my opinion carp don't usually trough through relentlessly, with cell being the word exception, seen people have cell freezer baits on the hair and re use the same bait for a 72 hour session. I think it must have Imodium in the recipe lol
In reply to Post #33
What's ironic? I said the vast majority don't (and I was talking big companies) not no-one. Sticky do hardened bottom baits, ABS do, for example.
Do you do a range of flouro, high attract bottom baits?
What's ironic? I said the vast majority don't (and I was talking big companies) not no-one. Sticky do hardened bottom baits, ABS do, for example.
Do you do a range of flouro, high attract bottom baits?
In reply to Post #9
>>>>>>>Does anyone consider the depth of water when fishing wafters, I used to test them in the margins but what about water pressure baring down in deeper water?<<<<<<
Many many years ago, I did a lot of tests on popups and posted the results on here, but they was all lost with about 3000+ other postings I made over the years when the site was hacked or crashed etc
I used a 2 litre plastic bottle, a Reuben Heaton depth gauge and a "G" clamp.
It was just a simple case of drop the gauge into the bottle, fill with water and there must be no air bubble. otherwise it causes problems, drop in a rig baited up with a pop up, you can put about 4 or 5 rigs in one bottle at the same time, get two pieces of ply wood about 3" square hold them opposite each other half way down the bottle and then clamp the "G" clamp over the two pieces of plywood and turn the screw and watch the pressure gauge as you tighten the "G2 clamp", stop when you reach the desired depth.
Its important you use the plywood, otherwise the bottle will burst when the "G" clamp tightens up with no warning, I learned the hard way, 2 litres of water to mop up in the kitchen is not fun. And the same in the workshop, a 2 litre bottle bursting in a vice is a pain in the butt.
Its then a case of seeing if the pop up sinks or not, or just doing regular checks on it and timing how long it takes for the pop up to sink. I used to leave them on the bed side table on a night time to keep a check on them.
Pierced pop ups sink quicker than tied on ones as we know, but with some pop ups, their is not much difference. I have never tested ones with bait screws as they was not in use at the time. One day I might try the tests again.
If I recall, it took 4 pieces or it might have been 6 pieces of bouyant plastic maize to hold a size 6 fang up in 15' of water, anything less and it just sunk with the hook resting on the bottom with the maize above.
If they stayed up 24 hours I was happy with a pop up as I rarely leave my baits out longer than that. I'm gutted if I leave a bait out for about three days to find a rig severley tangled when I wind in or the pop up is missing.
My best pop up in those days was a HBS pineapple and I often caught within an hour of casting out. I was amazed to find that whether they was tied on or pierced, they sunk within 30 minutes of casting out and that was in 15" of water and the depth I tested them at and found out that I was catching on a wafter or bottom bait rather than a pop up.
Nash airball baits in those days would stay popped up for a week and would never sink at 15', and when I cranked the pressure up to 80' or it may have been 120' and they would still stay popped up for week and once again I would give up on them.
>>>>>>>Does anyone consider the depth of water when fishing wafters, I used to test them in the margins but what about water pressure baring down in deeper water?<<<<<<
Many many years ago, I did a lot of tests on popups and posted the results on here, but they was all lost with about 3000+ other postings I made over the years when the site was hacked or crashed etc
I used a 2 litre plastic bottle, a Reuben Heaton depth gauge and a "G" clamp.
It was just a simple case of drop the gauge into the bottle, fill with water and there must be no air bubble. otherwise it causes problems, drop in a rig baited up with a pop up, you can put about 4 or 5 rigs in one bottle at the same time, get two pieces of ply wood about 3" square hold them opposite each other half way down the bottle and then clamp the "G" clamp over the two pieces of plywood and turn the screw and watch the pressure gauge as you tighten the "G2 clamp", stop when you reach the desired depth.
Its important you use the plywood, otherwise the bottle will burst when the "G" clamp tightens up with no warning, I learned the hard way, 2 litres of water to mop up in the kitchen is not fun. And the same in the workshop, a 2 litre bottle bursting in a vice is a pain in the butt.
Its then a case of seeing if the pop up sinks or not, or just doing regular checks on it and timing how long it takes for the pop up to sink. I used to leave them on the bed side table on a night time to keep a check on them.
Pierced pop ups sink quicker than tied on ones as we know, but with some pop ups, their is not much difference. I have never tested ones with bait screws as they was not in use at the time. One day I might try the tests again.
If I recall, it took 4 pieces or it might have been 6 pieces of bouyant plastic maize to hold a size 6 fang up in 15' of water, anything less and it just sunk with the hook resting on the bottom with the maize above.
If they stayed up 24 hours I was happy with a pop up as I rarely leave my baits out longer than that. I'm gutted if I leave a bait out for about three days to find a rig severley tangled when I wind in or the pop up is missing.
My best pop up in those days was a HBS pineapple and I often caught within an hour of casting out. I was amazed to find that whether they was tied on or pierced, they sunk within 30 minutes of casting out and that was in 15" of water and the depth I tested them at and found out that I was catching on a wafter or bottom bait rather than a pop up.
Nash airball baits in those days would stay popped up for a week and would never sink at 15', and when I cranked the pressure up to 80' or it may have been 120' and they would still stay popped up for week and once again I would give up on them.