In reply to Post #17
Andy. I don't think you have any idea of the costs involved in running a legal fishery in france. I have had my place just over a year and believe me it's not a massive money maker! Sure during the open season we get a good income if full but that has to last the year! Tax on the service sector is 22.4% alone. Over the winter the costs and work are massive... Netting, maintenance, feeding the fish, tree work, siltex, digger hire, lake dye, swim repairs, stocking, public indemnity insurance etc etc.
I for one am very concerned as to whether I will even be in business in a year. If the worse case scenario plays out we will be mullered. The only money in the bank will be deposits and that will not pay the bills.
Andy. I don't think you have any idea of the costs involved in running a legal fishery in france. I have had my place just over a year and believe me it's not a massive money maker! Sure during the open season we get a good income if full but that has to last the year! Tax on the service sector is 22.4% alone. Over the winter the costs and work are massive... Netting, maintenance, feeding the fish, tree work, siltex, digger hire, lake dye, swim repairs, stocking, public indemnity insurance etc etc.
I for one am very concerned as to whether I will even be in business in a year. If the worse case scenario plays out we will be mullered. The only money in the bank will be deposits and that will not pay the bills.
I'm not having the ' feel sorry for the poor fishery owners' feeling atm and doubt I will ever as I see the annual inflated price increases slipping in followed by inflated costs for bait, particle, food etc only to arrive at a fishery to find the inflated stocking levels confirmed and the 'A' team is now a B team as target fish x and y died the previous year but they didn't let anyone know and struggling to get a bite in the first 4 days.
To now paint fishery owners in a light of poor hard done by businesses struggling to keep their heads above water is quite simply absurd.
We will see what fisheries come out of the next 6 months with positive customer feedback.
I guess the 'less than great' fisheries might give the impression that their all the same.....
To now paint fishery owners in a light of poor hard done by businesses struggling to keep their heads above water is quite simply absurd.
We will see what fisheries come out of the next 6 months with positive customer feedback.
I guess the 'less than great' fisheries might give the impression that their all the same.....
In reply to Post #32
A Jaundiced view based on poor experiences should not mean that you tar the whole industry in the same way.
A Jaundiced view based on poor experiences should not mean that you tar the whole industry in the same way.
In reply to Post #32
I charge less for bait than at home as I want the best quality going in. for the fish....we make very little on food....if my customers are not catching I give them free bait to try and rigs etc as I want them to have a great time. During the close whilst the fish are still feeding I put approx 70kg of food in a week so the fish will achieve best weights. A stock with over 25 fish above 40lbs to over 60 needs a lot of food. Another massive cost was electricity running the air systems.
Last year we ran at a loss. This year will be the same.
I charge less for bait than at home as I want the best quality going in. for the fish....we make very little on food....if my customers are not catching I give them free bait to try and rigs etc as I want them to have a great time. During the close whilst the fish are still feeding I put approx 70kg of food in a week so the fish will achieve best weights. A stock with over 25 fish above 40lbs to over 60 needs a lot of food. Another massive cost was electricity running the air systems.
Last year we ran at a loss. This year will be the same.
In reply to Post #33
I've had good experiences and some not so good experiences and approach every trip with the enthusiasm of my first foreign fishing trip so I'm certainly not judging all fisheries the same so to insinuate such negativity is a poor attempt of character assassination.
Fisheries are judged by customers honest feedback only.
I've had good experiences and some not so good experiences and approach every trip with the enthusiasm of my first foreign fishing trip so I'm certainly not judging all fisheries the same so to insinuate such negativity is a poor attempt of character assassination.
Fisheries are judged by customers honest feedback only.
In reply to Post #35
No one is trying to 'character assassinate' Andy...just take a look at what you are writing in your posts. It is a less than flattering view of French carp fisheries. I would point out that like most business's, carp fisheries are judged on their success. The great thing is that with success comes a full diary made up of regulars which is what makes the job more than just a way of earning an income. To get to that stage takes years of hard work, injections of cash and stress and the fail rate is very high indeed.
No one is trying to 'character assassinate' Andy...just take a look at what you are writing in your posts. It is a less than flattering view of French carp fisheries. I would point out that like most business's, carp fisheries are judged on their success. The great thing is that with success comes a full diary made up of regulars which is what makes the job more than just a way of earning an income. To get to that stage takes years of hard work, injections of cash and stress and the fail rate is very high indeed.
In reply to Post #36
I have customers coming back for their 3rd and 4th visits since taking ownership and very good reviews. I'm happy to say I've made a few friends along the way and have been amazed at how helpful some of my guests have bee
I was up against the old ballif telling lies to his regulars that the stock had gone, which it definitely has not as I've had it netted.
You are entitled to your opinion but from what I've seen of other fishery owners near me most work very hard to ensure their customers have the best possible experience in france.
I have customers coming back for their 3rd and 4th visits since taking ownership and very good reviews. I'm happy to say I've made a few friends along the way and have been amazed at how helpful some of my guests have bee
I was up against the old ballif telling lies to his regulars that the stock had gone, which it definitely has not as I've had it netted.
You are entitled to your opinion but from what I've seen of other fishery owners near me most work very hard to ensure their customers have the best possible experience in france.
In reply to Post #35
This has gone so far off topic with a lot of axe grinding.
Start a new thread slanging off lake owners and let this get back to factual info on the effects of covid 19 and travel
This has gone so far off topic with a lot of axe grinding.
Start a new thread slanging off lake owners and let this get back to factual info on the effects of covid 19 and travel
In reply to Post #38
Now that makes sense...lol
Now that makes sense...lol
In reply to Post #38
Couldn't agree more. This thread has gone so far off topic and is a classic example of why people are using the Forum less and less
Couldn't agree more. This thread has gone so far off topic and is a classic example of why people are using the Forum less and less
In reply to Post #7
Back on topic.....take out travel insurance.
Back on topic.....take out travel insurance.
In reply to Post #41
Well, I've just checked mine and it doesn't cover pandemics.
Well, I've just checked mine and it doesn't cover pandemics.
In reply to Post #42
Not classified as a pandemic....yet !!
Not classified as a pandemic....yet !!
In reply to Post #43
No but at the point there are FCO non travel instructions it will be classed as such and that's when the customers will be cancelling and looking to make a claim.
No but at the point there are FCO non travel instructions it will be classed as such and that's when the customers will be cancelling and looking to make a claim.
In reply to Post #44
FCO has advised against all but essential travel to Northern Italy. Looks like my Parco trip mid April is a gonna then unless they lift the restrictions after the 1st week of April.
FCO has advised against all but essential travel to Northern Italy. Looks like my Parco trip mid April is a gonna then unless they lift the restrictions after the 1st week of April.