In reply to Post #30
why waste my time typing **** like you.?
why waste my time typing **** like you.?
In reply to Post #30
you should try it.
you should try it.
In reply to Post #32
Wish carp bit as easy as you matey ha ha ha ha
Wish carp bit as easy as you matey ha ha ha ha
does this still apply to cork ball pop ups
Someone should step in and say there sould be a clear warning on the packaging. E.G. base mixes should come with a warning printed on them CLEARLY, not just in the small text which not even the saddest of people read.
Jeez!!! What the hell is wrong with cork?!!
In reply to Post #1000
Sorry if this is a dumb question i know nothing about bait making but Is this what is used to make air ball pop ups..?
Sorry if this is a dumb question i know nothing about bait making but Is this what is used to make air ball pop ups..?
In reply to Post #1000
I think this is a well made point and, whilst some people are not convinced, I (and my employees) have a great deal of experience of this product from years of use.
Once correctly mixed and contained/supended in a mix it is no more dangerous than many other fine powders that are used in bait making, but in the raw form it is extremely light and easily becomes airborne. This means that it is alomst impossible for it to be mixed with other powders without the serious risk of inhalation by the operatives mixing it. Once inhaled, it may be 'coughed up' gradually but there is a significant risk of respiratory damage -particularly if used over a prolonged period without taking the neccessary precautions.
When we used to use this product at CCM, we mixed it in a controlled, ventilated environment and those doing so also used full face masks with battery-powered respirators. After several 'batches' we realised that residue was present on the inside of the masks and was therefore getting past the barrier the mask was supposed to create.
As soon as this was realised, we stopped mixing the product at CCM immediately and employed industrial powder mixers to contract mix batches for us. This is now what we do with every mix and ensures saftey, even distribution of the key ingredients and 100% consistency.
Forget the fact you think you may save a few pounds by buying in glass bubbles to mix with your own ingredients to make your own pop up mix; it is just not worth the long term, irreversible damage you will potentially do to your health.
In terms of it's safety for fish; remember that:
1: As a pop up ingredient it should never be swallowed/ingested by fish. (It must never be used as a 'boilie' ingredient that will be eaten).
2: Fish eat many natural items that contain grit, sand etc in their normal diet- these are simply passed by the fish. In the worst case scenario that the pop up would become detached from the rig and was eaten, the fish would manage to digest it and pass the unwanted material within the mix. (and this would surely be an isolated case which would hence be unlikely to cause any damage to the fish).
I hope this is of interest and strongly advise people not to mix their own glass bubbles!
I think this is a well made point and, whilst some people are not convinced, I (and my employees) have a great deal of experience of this product from years of use.
Once correctly mixed and contained/supended in a mix it is no more dangerous than many other fine powders that are used in bait making, but in the raw form it is extremely light and easily becomes airborne. This means that it is alomst impossible for it to be mixed with other powders without the serious risk of inhalation by the operatives mixing it. Once inhaled, it may be 'coughed up' gradually but there is a significant risk of respiratory damage -particularly if used over a prolonged period without taking the neccessary precautions.
When we used to use this product at CCM, we mixed it in a controlled, ventilated environment and those doing so also used full face masks with battery-powered respirators. After several 'batches' we realised that residue was present on the inside of the masks and was therefore getting past the barrier the mask was supposed to create.
As soon as this was realised, we stopped mixing the product at CCM immediately and employed industrial powder mixers to contract mix batches for us. This is now what we do with every mix and ensures saftey, even distribution of the key ingredients and 100% consistency.
Forget the fact you think you may save a few pounds by buying in glass bubbles to mix with your own ingredients to make your own pop up mix; it is just not worth the long term, irreversible damage you will potentially do to your health.
In terms of it's safety for fish; remember that:
1: As a pop up ingredient it should never be swallowed/ingested by fish. (It must never be used as a 'boilie' ingredient that will be eaten).
2: Fish eat many natural items that contain grit, sand etc in their normal diet- these are simply passed by the fish. In the worst case scenario that the pop up would become detached from the rig and was eaten, the fish would manage to digest it and pass the unwanted material within the mix. (and this would surely be an isolated case which would hence be unlikely to cause any damage to the fish).
I hope this is of interest and strongly advise people not to mix their own glass bubbles!
In reply to Post #38
It's fine. Never harmed a fish yet. We ingest more by mixing it than a carp does picking up a hook bait. Even if they'd swallowed it.
It's fine. Never harmed a fish yet. We ingest more by mixing it than a carp does picking up a hook bait. Even if they'd swallowed it.
Sounds like an absolutely dreadful idea and typical of an industry that has a very shady and gimicky side to it
What the hell is wrong with pop up mix, cork dust, cork balls and microwaved's??
Polyballs are horrible things too but not in the same league as glass
Stop covering your pop ups in glug if you want them to stay really bouyant, and keep them lovely and dry by putting a load of cheap table salt in the tub to soak up all the moisture, simples
Anyway I don't know why more people don't just stick two pop ups on if they want a really bouyant bait. Carp are not afraid of big double baits
What the hell is wrong with pop up mix, cork dust, cork balls and microwaved's??
Polyballs are horrible things too but not in the same league as glass
Stop covering your pop ups in glug if you want them to stay really bouyant, and keep them lovely and dry by putting a load of cheap table salt in the tub to soak up all the moisture, simples
Anyway I don't know why more people don't just stick two pop ups on if they want a really bouyant bait. Carp are not afraid of big double baits
In reply to Post #35
There have already been big moves by the EU for labelling of all animal food ingredients and best before dating. I would imagine putting glass in bait will be banned very quickly and people will start being put out of business by heavy fines sooner than you know it (and good riddance)
There have already been big moves by the EU for labelling of all animal food ingredients and best before dating. I would imagine putting glass in bait will be banned very quickly and people will start being put out of business by heavy fines sooner than you know it (and good riddance)
In reply to Post #41
Have you read all of this topic? Some microspheres are SAFE for human consumption and used in food.....until you have seen/used them and realised how tiny they actually can be then I am not sure how you can call for an EU ban
Carp eat sand naturally if its in the lake bed.....rough sand or tiny small perfectly smooth glass spheres, I know which I would rather eat if I had too (and as a kid I am sure we have all eaten the other one on the beach many times and look, I we are still alive
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Personally I think this topic being locked at the top of the forum is a waste of space and a bit of scaremongering
Have you read all of this topic? Some microspheres are SAFE for human consumption and used in food.....until you have seen/used them and realised how tiny they actually can be then I am not sure how you can call for an EU ban
Carp eat sand naturally if its in the lake bed.....rough sand or tiny small perfectly smooth glass spheres, I know which I would rather eat if I had too (and as a kid I am sure we have all eaten the other one on the beach many times and look, I we are still alive
) Personally I think this topic being locked at the top of the forum is a waste of space and a bit of scaremongering
Just don't buy and avoid spheres
I found out my Crafty Catcher pop ups contained spheres so I binned the pot
I wouldn't cast glass, plastic or anything artificial anywhere near precious carp personally
If you want to make pop ups, just microwave some sinking boilies carefully or buy some ordinary pop up mix and roll them up, why faff about with stupid spheres, cork balls etc??
I found out my Crafty Catcher pop ups contained spheres so I binned the pot
I wouldn't cast glass, plastic or anything artificial anywhere near precious carp personally
If you want to make pop ups, just microwave some sinking boilies carefully or buy some ordinary pop up mix and roll them up, why faff about with stupid spheres, cork balls etc??
In reply to Post #43
What a daft reaction IMHO.
These glass spheres are almost certainly safer to eat (for us and fish!) than sand which is essentially the same material in a different mechanical form i.e. larger grain size and with sharp edges. Carp will naturally consume sand when feeding in many lakes. Also how many popup to carp actually swallow? Most will never swallow one in their life as they are caught when trying to eat it!
>or buy some ordinary pop up mix and roll them up,
Many of which contain some microspheres
If you really are worried that these microspheres will harm carp (which they won't) then may I also suggest you stop casting out a very sharp metal hook which is proven to cause a small hole in there mouth
Personally I think this topic has too many rumors in it and little fact. The main 'risk' in using microspheres is inhaling them during mixing of the dry powders when making popups. You must wear a suitable facemask if working with the raw material.
Can the topic be cleaned up to just say that and then locked?
What a daft reaction IMHO.
These glass spheres are almost certainly safer to eat (for us and fish!) than sand which is essentially the same material in a different mechanical form i.e. larger grain size and with sharp edges. Carp will naturally consume sand when feeding in many lakes. Also how many popup to carp actually swallow? Most will never swallow one in their life as they are caught when trying to eat it!
>or buy some ordinary pop up mix and roll them up,
Many of which contain some microspheres
If you really are worried that these microspheres will harm carp (which they won't) then may I also suggest you stop casting out a very sharp metal hook which is proven to cause a small hole in there mouth
Personally I think this topic has too many rumors in it and little fact. The main 'risk' in using microspheres is inhaling them during mixing of the dry powders when making popups. You must wear a suitable facemask if working with the raw material.
Can the topic be cleaned up to just say that and then locked?
In reply to Post #44
Not his first ridiculous post, makes me wonder if he's a familiar user who's returned following a ban.
Those evil corkballs eh? Why can't they be made out of a natural material?!
Not his first ridiculous post, makes me wonder if he's a familiar user who's returned following a ban.
Those evil corkballs eh? Why can't they be made out of a natural material?!