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Super cold or Flu...... (1,759 posts / 63,154 views)
ip100 ip100
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Post #373 17 Dec 2021 08:16
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You can still get antibody tests done?
Wayne Wayne
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Post #374 17 Dec 2021 08:22
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Not sure, they would be useful though as they would give a real indication of who has antibodies......
Andydave
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Post #375 17 Dec 2021 08:26
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Doesnt the vaccine tell the body to produce antibodies??
Gary76
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Post #376 17 Dec 2021 08:38
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Probably because it would slow down getting needles in peoples arms regardless of whether they needed it or not.
noj
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An antibody test is how they tested if it works and how they should monitor people's level of protection.
Surely if the covid goalposts keep moving so must the antibodies fighting it and we need to put more effort in to monitoring it.
mal mal
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Post #378 17 Dec 2021 11:14
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It's been common knowledge for a while that covid is spread via the mouth and nose however new data suggests that its more likely to be a**holes....
VLT VLT
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Post #379 17 Dec 2021 11:49
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The vaccine does make your body produce antibodies yes, and so does catching / recovering from covid.

You can have an antibody test but only in certain circumstances, government trials, NHS workers, ONS surveys etc.

Antibody testing would be a more sensible way of prioritising vaccination, it it was a quantitative test (i.e what is the level of antibodies present) maybe it is just qualitative (i.e. yes, no)

Just imagine right now how many millions of old people are being boosted when they have high antibodies anyway.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #380 17 Dec 2021 11:53
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Just imagine how many unvaccinated and people who show no symptoms have antibodies.......
VLT VLT
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Post #381 17 Dec 2021 13:04
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well yes that's partly my point! It's difficult to know, but they reckon up to 50% of omicron cases are asymptomatic.
Gary76
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Post #382 17 Dec 2021 13:06
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As was expressed before, the vaccine will give you the spike protein antigen.
Natural immunity will give you a broader range of antigens and theoretically cover more bases.
The most concerning part of this all is how the public are creating an us Vs them mentality, egged on by media.
Mervin-Hughes
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Post #383 17 Dec 2021 13:31
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its called the new inclusive society.

its inclusive for those who swallow whatever the government say and don't question anything but if you do - sorry not included and vilified. Its the way forward apparently.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #384 17 Dec 2021 13:45
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Yep, Brexit first then the GE and then this........I was listening to some women who was receiving abuse from her own family. They were calling unclean, spreader etc......she sounded as low as you can get and wouldn't surprise me if she does something stupid.......

VLT - If we knew that data then there would be less jabs, less jabs = less money for someone!

I'm gobsmacked Witty is STILL saying we don't have enough data........it's booster, booster booster....... no mention of having your first jab now and how effective or not that would be.......
Andydave
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Post #385 17 Dec 2021 13:51
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When the majority of people with covid in hospitals now are unvaccinated, you can quite easily see why the public do see it that way, especially when there is a reasonably good solution to minimize the impact, but for reasons unknown people dont go that route.
VLT VLT
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Post #386 17 Dec 2021 13:59
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He's always going to be cautious in the face of limited data. Throughout this, they have always had to estimate the total number of infections, which is a big gap in the data.

As the days pass by though it's increasingly looking like it's not so bad, down to our high level of vaccination AND prior infection.... so we can all UNITE and take a share of the credit
Deanmo
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Post #387 17 Dec 2021 14:20
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You can still get antibody tests done for covid but you have to pay for it yourself through certain online pharmacies. I had one done last year at hospital after catching covid but the issue with the antibody test is that not everyone produces the same amount of antibodies and the tests only register that you've had covid if you have a certain amount of the antibodies in your system but they can tell if you had covid in the past by your t cell readings. My test came back negative for the antibodies but my t cell readings indicated according to the doctor that I had already had covid
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