In reply to Post #343
You obviously dont understand how this works and how variants arise.
The more COVID in general circulation the significantly greater the chances of a variant.
Therefore by opening up slowly, once we are mostly FULLY vaccinated to ONLY countries that have high levels of FULLY vaccinated people, with low levels of Covid in circulation we reduce the risks significantly.
We can not eliminate it. But what we can do is reduce the risks.
By allowing people to travel to countries such as France (and previously india) where vaccination levels are not as of yet at our own, and Covid is in relation to us, in high circulation, then "trusting" people to FULLY self isolate (that is definitely not happening) we increase the chances of importing a variant.
And no we cant vaccinate everyone, and yes there will be some
Anti vaccers. But once everyone who wants and can have it has had both jabs we can then open up because we will have reduced the level of circulation and transmission, thus reducing (significantly) the importation of a variant.
You obviously dont understand how this works and how variants arise.
The more COVID in general circulation the significantly greater the chances of a variant.
Therefore by opening up slowly, once we are mostly FULLY vaccinated to ONLY countries that have high levels of FULLY vaccinated people, with low levels of Covid in circulation we reduce the risks significantly.
We can not eliminate it. But what we can do is reduce the risks.
By allowing people to travel to countries such as France (and previously india) where vaccination levels are not as of yet at our own, and Covid is in relation to us, in high circulation, then "trusting" people to FULLY self isolate (that is definitely not happening) we increase the chances of importing a variant.
And no we cant vaccinate everyone, and yes there will be some
Anti vaccers. But once everyone who wants and can have it has had both jabs we can then open up because we will have reduced the level of circulation and transmission, thus reducing (significantly) the importation of a variant.
In reply to Post #340
Vaccination does work. Once everyone (or as many that can be and want to be) are vaccinated.
We aint there yet. I am 55 and dont get my second Jab until mid June. My son hasn't had either of his. All that is required is a bit of patience. Just a few more weeks.
We dont need to lockdown. We just need to stop international travel to anywhere but green countries (ie those in the same covid status as us) .
International travel is how we got in this bloody mess FFS!
My concern is simple. We open up to early to international travel based on selfish priorities and we all end back in bloody lockdown.
This amber list is nonsense. There is no way people coming back from amber countries are self isolating. Not properly.
That means staying in a house or a room on your own (or with the people you travelled with) and not mixing or sharing facilities with anyone else who didn't travel with you.you should not even stop for fuel this side of the channel FFS!!!
Are you seriously telling me that all people who are returning from fishing in France, even if they stay at home, are not mixing with their families at least . Because i simply dont believe you!
Vaccination does work. Once everyone (or as many that can be and want to be) are vaccinated.
We aint there yet. I am 55 and dont get my second Jab until mid June. My son hasn't had either of his. All that is required is a bit of patience. Just a few more weeks.
We dont need to lockdown. We just need to stop international travel to anywhere but green countries (ie those in the same covid status as us) .
International travel is how we got in this bloody mess FFS!
My concern is simple. We open up to early to international travel based on selfish priorities and we all end back in bloody lockdown.
This amber list is nonsense. There is no way people coming back from amber countries are self isolating. Not properly.
That means staying in a house or a room on your own (or with the people you travelled with) and not mixing or sharing facilities with anyone else who didn't travel with you.you should not even stop for fuel this side of the channel FFS!!!
Are you seriously telling me that all people who are returning from fishing in France, even if they stay at home, are not mixing with their families at least . Because i simply dont believe you!
In reply to Post #350
The French Government have just announced that due to the Indian Variant a 10 isolation period will be applied to all visitors from the UK. It looks like it will be policed with checks as well.
The French Government have just announced that due to the Indian Variant a 10 isolation period will be applied to all visitors from the UK. It looks like it will be policed with checks as well.
In reply to Post #351
Jim, what was the finer detail on the 7 day isolation - could you break it early in order to travel home.
Jim, what was the finer detail on the 7 day isolation - could you break it early in order to travel home.
In reply to Post #352
I believe you could however to be honest it was not policed at all whereas this one looks like it well could be. I will update as I hear more.
I believe you could however to be honest it was not policed at all whereas this one looks like it well could be. I will update as I hear more.
Nightmare... Due out in 3 weeks 😕😕
In reply to Post #352
Have they actually stated how many days isolation it is yet????
Have they actually stated how many days isolation it is yet????
In reply to Post #355
No they haven't nor what form it will be - hotel or other approved address.
The announcement was a " more detail to follow" job.
No they haven't nor what form it will be - hotel or other approved address.
The announcement was a " more detail to follow" job.
In reply to Post #356
It has been confirmed that the isolation period for travelers from the UK will be 10 days- It has not been announced when the start of this will be but expect it within days.
It has been confirmed that the isolation period for travelers from the UK will be 10 days- It has not been announced when the start of this will be but expect it within days.
In reply to Post #357
Could anglers just go back to UK after 7 days?
Could anglers just go back to UK after 7 days?
In reply to Post #358
No one knows at the moment as the details have yet to be announced. We shall have to wait for a day or so to see what the details of the isolation period are.
Find below the latest....
France is to toughen up its restrictions on arrivals from the UK over fears of the so-called Indian variant of Covid-19 which now makes up half of new cases in the UK.
Speaking after a meeting of the Defence Council on Wednesday, French government spokesman Gabriel Attal said France would introduce “compulsory isolation” for all arrivals from the UK.
“There is a new situation with the progression of the so-called Indian variant in the United Kingdom,” said Gabriel Attal. “(France) will set up compulsory isolation for people coming from the United Kingdom.”
Details of the measures, and when they will be introduced from, will be announced “in the coming hours”, he said.
They are likely to apply to all arrivals into France from the UK, including French citizens and people who have their permanent residence in France, although previous travel restrictions have included exemptions for hauliers and other vital workers.
No one knows at the moment as the details have yet to be announced. We shall have to wait for a day or so to see what the details of the isolation period are.
Find below the latest....
France is to toughen up its restrictions on arrivals from the UK over fears of the so-called Indian variant of Covid-19 which now makes up half of new cases in the UK.
Speaking after a meeting of the Defence Council on Wednesday, French government spokesman Gabriel Attal said France would introduce “compulsory isolation” for all arrivals from the UK.
“There is a new situation with the progression of the so-called Indian variant in the United Kingdom,” said Gabriel Attal. “(France) will set up compulsory isolation for people coming from the United Kingdom.”
Details of the measures, and when they will be introduced from, will be announced “in the coming hours”, he said.
They are likely to apply to all arrivals into France from the UK, including French citizens and people who have their permanent residence in France, although previous travel restrictions have included exemptions for hauliers and other vital workers.
In reply to Post #359
The timescale is being reported as unknown in the UK. Commentators are speculating between 7 and 10 days.
The timescale is being reported as unknown in the UK. Commentators are speculating between 7 and 10 days.
In reply to Post #360
It has been announced that it will be 10 days.
It has been announced that it will be 10 days.
These governments are all as bad as each other they are not exactly banning people from their country's
Like said before scrap the amber and just have red or green
Like said before scrap the amber and just have red or green
Jeez......
The indian variant has properly f##ked it up for us...
Let's hope the people that live in the 'hot spots' of indian variant in the UK do the right thing and sit on their backsides and quarantine properly...... like...... nil chance of course.....
Oh well... another couple of months delayed before trips back to france methinks........
The indian variant has properly f##ked it up for us...
Let's hope the people that live in the 'hot spots' of indian variant in the UK do the right thing and sit on their backsides and quarantine properly...... like...... nil chance of course.....
Oh well... another couple of months delayed before trips back to france methinks........