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Ukraine and Russia (447 posts / 20,171 views)
ocelot ocelot
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Post #332 12 Mar 2022 11:59
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Antisemitism often emanates from the conspiracy theory brigade. Hard to sell most of their snake oil without a global controlling cabal in the picture. Their choice for this Bond villain, more often than not are those of Jewish faith. Backed up by the USA and western lackeys is the usual mantra.
clicky clicky
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Post #333 12 Mar 2022 12:33
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you and your history lessons. . god help anyone with you backing them up, you sound like you would shoot anyone in the back.. the Russians have numbers but no clue when it comes to boots on the ground..
TeeCee
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Post #334 12 Mar 2022 13:18
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I know, me looking at things logically and without emotion using historical examples analyzing current events, as apposed to your purely emotional responses...

It's amazing that Russia has survived for so long with their terrible army. Must have been pure fiction that the Russians helped massively in WWII, and instead it was the plucky British daring do and good old Yankie firepower that snuffed out those pesky Nazis, amirite?
ocelot ocelot
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Post #335 12 Mar 2022 13:27
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Your logic.
Your historical examples.
Your analysis.
Suppose that's with you being the self appointed pivot point and adding whatever weight you decide, purely to achieve your version of balance
TeeCee
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Post #336 12 Mar 2022 13:39
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Pure bait, not going to bite, I know, I know.... hahahahahahaha
ocelot ocelot
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Post #337 12 Mar 2022 13:44
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Wisely, cause the truth is unarguable and must be painful.
ocelot ocelot
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Post #338 12 Mar 2022 13:56
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Substitute Kharkiv and Kyiv for Stalingrad and Leningrad. Comparable populations but in the modern world. The aggressor in the 40's was a far more professional, ruthless force than what we're seeing from the aggressor in 2022.
Yet they were routed eventually outside and inside those cities.
How does Putin get Russia out of this, without it becoming, as is increasingly likely, an existential threat to his regime?
clicky clicky
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Post #339 12 Mar 2022 14:11
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I wouldn't call myself emotional,patriotic more so..must of had it drummed into me having a father who was a royal marine green beret, got many many photos of his times in Suez,malta, cypress. still have family living in lympstone also..
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #340 12 Mar 2022 14:19
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FFS, stop this nonsense. There is a humanitarian disaster happening RIGHT NOW! For God's sake, put your soapboxes away and have some compassion.

WATCH THIS.
ocelot ocelot
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Post #341 12 Mar 2022 14:45
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Better posting that plea on a Russian carp fishing forum really Ken. The Putin apologists won't
put their soapboxes away because of reality.
AndersonPol
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Post #342 12 Mar 2022 15:34
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Where is the world's concern for Yemeni civilians?
Anyone ?

https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/03/woke-west-gets-a-wake-up-call/
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #343 12 Mar 2022 15:43
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You're looking at things from a NATO perspective. The Russians don't fight the same. Take for example having their (Russian) generals up front, the British don't fight like that. As I've changed me to understand, unlike the US who'll blanket bomb the whole place and seek agreements after, the Russians use diplomacy at the same time as being at war, diplomacy and war for the Russians is inseparable, that's part of the reason why Western media and to a greater extent the western leadership keep thinking parroting that the Russian advance isn't effective, add into the equation the time it takes to surround cities to then be able to create their caldron. There's also Western propaganda too which won't admit how well the Russian advance has been, the Pentagon on the other hand is well aware.
TeeCee
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Post #344 12 Mar 2022 15:47
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It's fugging awful is what it is. Arms flooded in from America yet again. Similar can be said of the people of Papua new guinea who have had the Indonesian government systematically mashing them into the ground genociding a people's with arms sold by the British for years and years.
TeeCee
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Post #345 12 Mar 2022 15:55
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Nothing wrong with being patriotic, but from your posts they seem highly emotionally charged, I mean, where's your connection with Ukraine, surely your loyalties lay in Britain not some far flung county who's outcome will never affect you?



mal mal
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Post #346 12 Mar 2022 17:45
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This is also a very interesting watch

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00156cw



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