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Ukraine and Russia (447 posts / 20,185 views)
deaffred deaffred
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Post #317 11 Mar 2022 11:56
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After watching Putin with a meeting with the other despot of Belarus it's safe to assume both are going for broke .
At what point does the west intervene ?
Chemical weapons used ?
Millions dead ?
A country totally destroyed and all infrastructure rendered inoperable.

Does anyone think he will stop ?
He's gambling on the west not getting involved as he's threatened the use of nukes .Is sleepy Joe waiting for a Pearl harbour moment ?
Putin is a danger th the whole western way of life .

Thoughts please !!!!!!
ocelot ocelot
Posts: 1,802
Post #318 11 Mar 2022 12:15
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In reply to Post #316
At last you've finally given up on your ridiculous lazy
insinuating claim.
I catch and have caught plenty from all over the world in over 45 years of angling, thanks for the advice but it's not wanted or needed.

ocelot ocelot
Posts: 1,802
Post #319 11 Mar 2022 12:23
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In reply to Post #317
Putin calling in his IOU's in the middle east. 16,000 battle hardened*volunteer's " from Syria heading to Ukraine
deaffred deaffred
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Post #320 11 Mar 2022 12:40
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In reply to Post #319
Like I said his army is a joke for a country the size of Russia .
How is he going to explain to the relatives where little Sacha has disappeared to ?
Obviously using the mercenaries from the Middle East to rectify that problem .
The west's modern well trained modern army's would chew them up .
Just a shame he has a serious nuke arsenal .
70% of his war machine is outdated junk and he can't even rustle up a proper army and has to rely on conscripts .
It's game on !!!!!
TeeCee
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Post #321 11 Mar 2022 13:17
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In reply to Post #320
Great take there Rambo...

sundance sundance
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Post #322 11 Mar 2022 13:34
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David Baddiel makes this point about Judaism, Jewish and Race in his book 'Jews don't count'.


He is not religious. He eats pork. He doesn't go to the Synagogue.

But in 1939 when they were rounding up the Jews he would have been rounded up too. So they were considered a race.
mal mal
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Post #323 11 Mar 2022 15:08
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In reply to Post #322
I think that example might be down to who was doing the judgement there...

Not the best role model when it comes to considering a person's race or ethnicity

But he does have a point. Ethnic cleansing doesn't necessarily employ subtlety




sundance sundance
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Post #324 11 Mar 2022 16:06
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In reply to Post #323
That's exactly right. He makes the point that 'jewishness'
Is very much based on the attitude of those looking at it.

A right on left leaning anti rascist person may very well not consider antisemitism as racism. Perceiving maybe that they aren't dark enough. Maybe believing that they are all rich and control the world .

However a hateful right-wing person maybe repulsed
By the 'filthy jew' and wants them all wiped out.

They can cop hate from both sides.
mal mal
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Post #325 11 Mar 2022 17:53
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In reply to Post #324
Yeah fair point

I think I'd question the anti racist finding excuses for antisemitism mind...

As is the case with all forms of bigotry and prejudice, it starts with the nasty, tiny mind of the perpetrators

Very saddened to see and hear the accounts of racism against black and Asian students trying to get out of Ukraine from Ukrainian officials... you'd think a bit of perspective might have seeped through.





noj
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Social photographer... Post #326 11 Mar 2022 18:08
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In reply to Post #324
antisemitism is so idiotic it's recognised and categorised as racism, yet globally multiple races have people that identify in some way as Jewish.
In reality everybody carries hate around in one form or another, some just have the brains or lived experience to direct it where it deserves to be.
clicky clicky
Posts: 9,545
Post #327 11 Mar 2022 18:29
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In reply to Post #320
we have over 1000 highly trained commandos in Norway(cold response) at the moment with many other nato allies bringing the number up even more, Putin would last half hour if it went toe to toe..the blokes a fool..as for any nukes he sent over they wouldn't even get halfway.. now his getting the rag heads to come help him..
TeeCee
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Post #328 12 Mar 2022 05:58
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In reply to Post #327
Oh behave will you. That is mental what you're saying. What's this, like a for realz remake of the 300, but with 100 taking on the Russian horde? I take it you're Leonidas?

My sides, gone.
deaffred deaffred
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Post #329 12 Mar 2022 06:22
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In reply to Post #328
Well so far it's like the 300 have one hand tied behind their backs !!!!
Those Russians are the same as what was in WW2 they rely on sheer numbers but it's not even on par with WW2 as the wheels have come off .
He's now hoping Syrian mercenaries will give him a hand .
So far the Russian war machine is on par with a third world country .

If they came up against a professional well trained army they will be toast .
A good opportunity is being missed to eradicate the misbehaving bear .
TeeCee
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Post #330 12 Mar 2022 07:05
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In reply to Post #329
In think you are not looking at this correctly at all. You're looking at this from a NATO perspective, that being a scorched earth policy. The Russians use a different tactic, it's called the Calderon, encirclement and then eventually surrender. The Russians used the same tactic in Syria and before that Chechnya to great effect.

I think you also make the mistake of having some world police mindset whereby the US and their lackey's the UK et al are the only ones who can make moral judgements, who gave them that badge? Something I've been aware of for some time, and is painfully clear right now: it's a rigged game. You only have to look at the coronation by western powers with the banks, and then the UN with Russian evidence of serious foul play with biological agents near it's (Russian) borders with labs funded by the US, yet without even looking, the UN says it sees no evidence of wrong doing.

Something else you need to concentrate your mind on is the wars that the US and it's minions have been fighting: they've been fighting wars with ill equipped forces, rag-tag outfits; look at how quickly the Iraqi Army folded, the Russians certainly ain't the Iraq Army. In Afghanistan, allied forces got their arses handed to them and eventually fled with their tails between their legs, much like Vietnam.
AndersonPol
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Post #331 12 Mar 2022 07:34
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Victoria Nuland discusses the biolabs on film. US funded. The World 'Health' Organisation is also warning about them now.
Naftalie Bennett is urging the penis piano player to reach an agreement to cease hostilities.
Meanwhile, nobody stands with Yemen but wait till "the next big thing" comes along and gives the opportunity for more gratuitous virtue signalling.
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