In reply to Post #285
I think the QR code is to load your information onto your Ameli account and the french anti covid app. After which you can pull it up and show.
I think the QR code is to load your information onto your Ameli account and the french anti covid app. After which you can pull it up and show.
In reply to Post #288
It seems the basic infrastructure is there i.e. QR codes but its the legalities and freedom of information that isn't and wont be for some time for anything to be implemented effectively. We not only have that but the fact we have left the EU with agreements not in place or still being discussed, most seem to think this will take years. It all adds to the work load.
I also don't see France being added to the green list anytime soon. Their case levels are still relatively high, they are now reducing restrictions which means they will further increase the transmission given the lack of vaccination progress. For people that don't want to quarantine on return its all but impossible to see a trip any earlier than Sept time imo.
It seems the basic infrastructure is there i.e. QR codes but its the legalities and freedom of information that isn't and wont be for some time for anything to be implemented effectively. We not only have that but the fact we have left the EU with agreements not in place or still being discussed, most seem to think this will take years. It all adds to the work load.
I also don't see France being added to the green list anytime soon. Their case levels are still relatively high, they are now reducing restrictions which means they will further increase the transmission given the lack of vaccination progress. For people that don't want to quarantine on return its all but impossible to see a trip any earlier than Sept time imo.
In reply to Post #284
I think its doubtful that unrestricted travel will be available to vaccinated people in June.
Not just because of the 'risk' (however small) of a variant, but my understanding is that the vaccine does not stop you (the vaccinated) actually catching the virus, it simply reduces the effect upon you and the chances of you (the vaccinated) getting seriously ill.
You can still bring the virus back from wherever you go and spread it to others who are not vaccinated.
The problem is if the vaccination isnt the route out of this what is? All risks cant be eliminated. This disease aint going nowhere!
We were told last year. "3 weeks to flattern the curve" then it was "sacrafice November to save Christmas" then "No family Christmas but Easter all we be normal" then "Sacrafice spring and we have a 'irreversible' route map to normality by June". And the "bugal of vaccination is being heard over the horizon" (remember all those and who said them?)
All wrong, all lies.
Now we are being told "oh the indian variant is dangerous : the chances ofJune full restrictions being lifted (the" irreversible" route map!) completely are close to nil".
You see the pattern here. We are running a race where every time the finishing line gets close, it moves back a few yards further!.
What next? The Russuan/Korean/vanatu/(delete or add as appropriate) variant? The North Wembley version? This is never ending if we allow it to be.
Personally, IMO travel restrictions will remain in force in some form or another until all adults in UK have beem offered both doses. Thats about October /November. After that time the restrictions won't be politically sustainable to the public. At the moment the pols apparently indicate the public are overwhelmingly in favour if shutting all borders completely. 🤔🙄
Some Red must countries will remain well into 2022.
I no longer trust a single thing the Government says. Its clear to anyone that they are both terrified of their own shadow because of the "risks" (however small) of getting it wrong. (which given their track record is laughable) and they are making this up as they go along. Just lok at the confusion and mixed messages from the Government over Amber classified countries and the ability to travel to them for leisure purposes in the last 48 hrs.
Its time the people say "enough is enough" but they are being both bribed (furlough) and frightened (propaganda) into compliance. That won't last. Its no accident that furlough ends in October. Its no accident that the Covid emergency act powers also end then.
They already know that the autumn is the target. But no doubt when we get there it will be the winter surge that will be the new risk.
The nanny state needs to step back and let us live our lives free. Truly free.
Rant over!
Fishing in France in 2021 looks increasingly difficult until the autumn IMO. Even for the fully vaccinated.
I think its doubtful that unrestricted travel will be available to vaccinated people in June.
Not just because of the 'risk' (however small) of a variant, but my understanding is that the vaccine does not stop you (the vaccinated) actually catching the virus, it simply reduces the effect upon you and the chances of you (the vaccinated) getting seriously ill.
You can still bring the virus back from wherever you go and spread it to others who are not vaccinated.
The problem is if the vaccination isnt the route out of this what is? All risks cant be eliminated. This disease aint going nowhere!
We were told last year. "3 weeks to flattern the curve" then it was "sacrafice November to save Christmas" then "No family Christmas but Easter all we be normal" then "Sacrafice spring and we have a 'irreversible' route map to normality by June". And the "bugal of vaccination is being heard over the horizon" (remember all those and who said them?)
All wrong, all lies.
Now we are being told "oh the indian variant is dangerous : the chances ofJune full restrictions being lifted (the" irreversible" route map!) completely are close to nil".
You see the pattern here. We are running a race where every time the finishing line gets close, it moves back a few yards further!.
What next? The Russuan/Korean/vanatu/(delete or add as appropriate) variant? The North Wembley version? This is never ending if we allow it to be.
Personally, IMO travel restrictions will remain in force in some form or another until all adults in UK have beem offered both doses. Thats about October /November. After that time the restrictions won't be politically sustainable to the public. At the moment the pols apparently indicate the public are overwhelmingly in favour if shutting all borders completely. 🤔🙄
Some Red must countries will remain well into 2022.
I no longer trust a single thing the Government says. Its clear to anyone that they are both terrified of their own shadow because of the "risks" (however small) of getting it wrong. (which given their track record is laughable) and they are making this up as they go along. Just lok at the confusion and mixed messages from the Government over Amber classified countries and the ability to travel to them for leisure purposes in the last 48 hrs.
Its time the people say "enough is enough" but they are being both bribed (furlough) and frightened (propaganda) into compliance. That won't last. Its no accident that furlough ends in October. Its no accident that the Covid emergency act powers also end then.
They already know that the autumn is the target. But no doubt when we get there it will be the winter surge that will be the new risk.
The nanny state needs to step back and let us live our lives free. Truly free.
Rant over!
Fishing in France in 2021 looks increasingly difficult until the autumn IMO. Even for the fully vaccinated.
In reply to Post #291
If the vaccine isn't the route out then we just learn to live with it and accept loses to covid.
If the vaccine isn't the route out then we just learn to live with it and accept loses to covid.
On a slightly different note, not sure how this would maybe affect people going to France to fish public lakes? Although I am presuming a booked stay at a registered fishery avoids the need for this.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/brits-visiting-friends-france-must-164350506.html
The French civil service instructs: “A foreigner who wishes to come to France for a tourist stay of less than three months must present a proof of accommodation.
The Facebook group Remain in France Together told members: “We can advise you that the British Embassy have confirmed to us that the attestation will be required for UK passport holders travelling to France for private visits to friends and family where they do not have accommodation, such as a gîte, hotel, Airbnb. etc, booked.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/brits-visiting-friends-france-must-164350506.html
The French civil service instructs: “A foreigner who wishes to come to France for a tourist stay of less than three months must present a proof of accommodation.
The Facebook group Remain in France Together told members: “We can advise you that the British Embassy have confirmed to us that the attestation will be required for UK passport holders travelling to France for private visits to friends and family where they do not have accommodation, such as a gîte, hotel, Airbnb. etc, booked.
In reply to Post #292
You and I may be prepared to accept death or illness from Covid as an "accepted risk". But will the general population? More importantly will those in power?
Somehow I doubt it, given the fear whipped up!
People smoke and drink, eat to much of the wrong stuff , dont exercise, ride motorbike's, even drive cars, and a whole host of other activities far more "risky" than covid! But that is not the general perception is it!
There is the issue. How do you reduce the perceived (but not reality) of the risk so we are all prepared to live with it? Such a shift in public opinion wont happen until everyone (or almost everyone) feels safer by having 2 vaccination jabs.
You and I may be prepared to accept death or illness from Covid as an "accepted risk". But will the general population? More importantly will those in power?
Somehow I doubt it, given the fear whipped up!
People smoke and drink, eat to much of the wrong stuff , dont exercise, ride motorbike's, even drive cars, and a whole host of other activities far more "risky" than covid! But that is not the general perception is it!
There is the issue. How do you reduce the perceived (but not reality) of the risk so we are all prepared to live with it? Such a shift in public opinion wont happen until everyone (or almost everyone) feels safer by having 2 vaccination jabs.
In reply to Post #293
Th British Embassy may not be right. This is a very confusing area of immigration law in France. It appears that this attestation is only required for visitors of nationalities that require a short-term Schengen visa. The UK do not require a visa for visits of less than 90 days. Much discussion is going on within France regarding this and no official ruling has been given yet. Several french immigration lawyers have said the attestion is not required under current immigration law. I hope this is the case, since I live in France and it would be a right pain in the ass if the attestation is required, especially as 30 days notice has to be given of any such visit, so any quick family visits would be curtailed. We are watching this space and I'll keep you posted. Personally, I don't think it will happen.
Th British Embassy may not be right. This is a very confusing area of immigration law in France. It appears that this attestation is only required for visitors of nationalities that require a short-term Schengen visa. The UK do not require a visa for visits of less than 90 days. Much discussion is going on within France regarding this and no official ruling has been given yet. Several french immigration lawyers have said the attestion is not required under current immigration law. I hope this is the case, since I live in France and it would be a right pain in the ass if the attestation is required, especially as 30 days notice has to be given of any such visit, so any quick family visits would be curtailed. We are watching this space and I'll keep you posted. Personally, I don't think it will happen.
In reply to Post #295
If you live in France apply for your carte de sejour and you no longer need to adhere to the 90/180 rule.
If you live in France apply for your carte de sejour and you no longer need to adhere to the 90/180 rule.
In reply to Post #296
https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/19/eu-states-agree-to-allow-entry-to-bloc-for-vaccinated-travellers
https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/19/eu-states-agree-to-allow-entry-to-bloc-for-vaccinated-travellers
In reply to Post #296
I already have a permanent Carte and am resident in France, the 90/180 day rule doesn't apply to me. It applies to my family who are all in the UK.
I already have a permanent Carte and am resident in France, the 90/180 day rule doesn't apply to me. It applies to my family who are all in the UK.
In reply to Post #293
There's currently a 9pm curfew, moving to 11pm on 9th June. Assume that rules out night fishing public lakes until July.
There's currently a 9pm curfew, moving to 11pm on 9th June. Assume that rules out night fishing public lakes until July.
In reply to Post #299
You can night fish public lakes now.
You can night fish public lakes now.
In reply to Post #300
This makes interesting reading and being made law on same day as the uk announces the new green list
Deal reached for EU-wide COVID travel pass for summer holidays
The European Union has reached a deal on COVID certificates designed to open up tourism across the 27-nation bloc this summer.
The certificate will take the form of a QR code on a smartphone or paper, letting authorities determine the status of a visitor based on records in their home EU country.
It will show if a person has received a vaccine, had a recent negative test or had immunity based on recovery.
Politicians had wanted countries to commit to free testing for the certificate and said that no EU country should set additional quarantine requirements.
Germany and Sweden were among those resisting, officials said, though countries within the bloc in general are reluctant to give up their final say on border controls.
In the end, EU countries agreed to refrain from imposing additional restrictions, such as testing or quarantines, unless considered necessary on public health grounds, such as because of the rise of a new coronavirus variant.
The European Parliament is expected to pass a law in the week beginning 7 June for more than a dozen EU countries, including France and Spain, to test the system before a launch on 1 July.
The scheme also covers non-EU members of the border-free Schengen zone - Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland - and is separate from plans to open up the European Union to vaccinated non-EU visitors.
This makes interesting reading and being made law on same day as the uk announces the new green list
Deal reached for EU-wide COVID travel pass for summer holidays
The European Union has reached a deal on COVID certificates designed to open up tourism across the 27-nation bloc this summer.
The certificate will take the form of a QR code on a smartphone or paper, letting authorities determine the status of a visitor based on records in their home EU country.
It will show if a person has received a vaccine, had a recent negative test or had immunity based on recovery.
Politicians had wanted countries to commit to free testing for the certificate and said that no EU country should set additional quarantine requirements.
Germany and Sweden were among those resisting, officials said, though countries within the bloc in general are reluctant to give up their final say on border controls.
In the end, EU countries agreed to refrain from imposing additional restrictions, such as testing or quarantines, unless considered necessary on public health grounds, such as because of the rise of a new coronavirus variant.
The European Parliament is expected to pass a law in the week beginning 7 June for more than a dozen EU countries, including France and Spain, to test the system before a launch on 1 July.
The scheme also covers non-EU members of the border-free Schengen zone - Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland - and is separate from plans to open up the European Union to vaccinated non-EU visitors.
In reply to Post #301
That doesn't apply to UK
Wea are no longer in the European Union!?
That doesn't apply to UK
Wea are no longer in the European Union!?
In reply to Post #302
Well this will force other countries to follow suit
Spain to allow holidaymakers from UK in from Monday - but British government still says don't go
Spain will allow visitors from Britain into the country from Monday 24 May, according to an order published in the state gazette today.
However, the British government is advising Britons against travelling to amber list countries, saying trips to those nations should only for circumstances like visiting a sick relative or going to a funeral.
UK restrictions still require travellers returning to Britain from Spain - which is on the government's amber list - to self-isolate upon arrival.
The amber list covers the most popular UK holiday destinations such as Spain, France, Italy and Greece.
Transport secretary Grant Shapps has said "you should not be travelling to these places right now".
Those who go against that guidance must take two post-arrival tests, and are also required to self-isolate at home for 10 days, although they can reduce that time if they take an additional negative test on day-five.
Spanish PM Pedro Sanchez said "Spain will be delighted to receive British tourists again into our country... without restrictions and without health requirements."
It means British holidaymakers will not be required to show a negative PCR test, or quarantine in Spain upon arrival.
Read more on this breaking news story here.
Well this will force other countries to follow suit
Spain to allow holidaymakers from UK in from Monday - but British government still says don't go
Spain will allow visitors from Britain into the country from Monday 24 May, according to an order published in the state gazette today.
However, the British government is advising Britons against travelling to amber list countries, saying trips to those nations should only for circumstances like visiting a sick relative or going to a funeral.
UK restrictions still require travellers returning to Britain from Spain - which is on the government's amber list - to self-isolate upon arrival.
The amber list covers the most popular UK holiday destinations such as Spain, France, Italy and Greece.
Transport secretary Grant Shapps has said "you should not be travelling to these places right now".
Those who go against that guidance must take two post-arrival tests, and are also required to self-isolate at home for 10 days, although they can reduce that time if they take an additional negative test on day-five.
Spanish PM Pedro Sanchez said "Spain will be delighted to receive British tourists again into our country... without restrictions and without health requirements."
It means British holidaymakers will not be required to show a negative PCR test, or quarantine in Spain upon arrival.
Read more on this breaking news story here.