In reply to Post #15
He uses 0.75 tubing. I use 1.0 tubing, or sometimes a kicker if I feel flash, and that works just fine. Make sure you find some thick walled tubing.
I use a multi rig on supple braid, ideal for short bag rigs.
If casting with no bag then I can still manage with supple braid and tight tubing.
Most lads will use unstripped hook length as the thicker loop is then tighter in the eye and it prevents any slippage, even with no tubing.


He uses 0.75 tubing. I use 1.0 tubing, or sometimes a kicker if I feel flash, and that works just fine. Make sure you find some thick walled tubing.
I use a multi rig on supple braid, ideal for short bag rigs.
If casting with no bag then I can still manage with supple braid and tight tubing.
Most lads will use unstripped hook length as the thicker loop is then tighter in the eye and it prevents any slippage, even with no tubing.


In reply to Post #15
It works fine with no tubing, and you don't need the d to hold it's shape like a d rig tied with flouro does.
It works fine with no tubing, and you don't need the d to hold it's shape like a d rig tied with flouro does.
In reply to Post #17
Was just thinking keeping d allows the ring to move up and down as Mike explains what rig material and hook do you use do you strip it
Was just thinking keeping d allows the ring to move up and down as Mike explains what rig material and hook do you use do you strip it
In reply to Post #15
He is using tubing as on his rig his loop is stripped so just braid which will slip, most other people are using the rig with coated braid as the loop which stays in position better
He is using tubing as on his rig his loop is stripped so just braid which will slip, most other people are using the rig with coated braid as the loop which stays in position better
In reply to Post #18
I use thinking anglers tungskin, or the Korda dark matter tungsten. Not stripped, it doesn't work unless its a coated braid that is intact. Tied to a Nash fang twister usually
I use thinking anglers tungskin, or the Korda dark matter tungsten. Not stripped, it doesn't work unless its a coated braid that is intact. Tied to a Nash fang twister usually
One more spanner to throw in with the way Mike Holly is tying it, is hookbait size. If tied like Mike has, with a Supple braided 'D', hookbaits can wrap around the hook. The hookbait needs to be bigger in diameter than the distance between the point of the hook and the eye.
As mentioned, to stop the D from slipping and pulling up tight to the eye, there's a match to be found between, hook eye diameter, braid diameter and if wanted, kicker/silicone. Mike is using tight fitting silicone to stop the small diameter braid slipping. Others use thick coated braid, small eye, with no kicker. Any combination of these will stop it slipping but there's 100s of combinations /components to try that'll work.
There is a difference in Ds between using coated braids and supple. A coated braids D will stay a D, in place (like a stiff D rig), where with a supple braid the D will fold back towards the eye.
I prefer a coated braid with a small eye, like the original. But have been playing with Mikes version as a combi rig. I've not yet found a combination of parts I'm happy with yet that don't slip though.
As mentioned, to stop the D from slipping and pulling up tight to the eye, there's a match to be found between, hook eye diameter, braid diameter and if wanted, kicker/silicone. Mike is using tight fitting silicone to stop the small diameter braid slipping. Others use thick coated braid, small eye, with no kicker. Any combination of these will stop it slipping but there's 100s of combinations /components to try that'll work.
There is a difference in Ds between using coated braids and supple. A coated braids D will stay a D, in place (like a stiff D rig), where with a supple braid the D will fold back towards the eye.
I prefer a coated braid with a small eye, like the original. But have been playing with Mikes version as a combi rig. I've not yet found a combination of parts I'm happy with yet that don't slip though.
Not a multi rig as such but can utilise changing the hook still. I tie it the same as a multi but pull the loop tight against the eye ( coating left on coated braid), then mount a hookbait on a micro ring swivel with a hookbead. Big lump of putty on the knot as normal but use it for bottom baits.