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Impulse Liquid / Dr Patrick Mills (21 posts / 6,766 views)
lincs-carper
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Post #24 17 Nov 2024 13:20
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Like many others I've messed about with ffaa's without much conclusion until I started to look at what, to me anyway was an actual link in terms of attraction. I've now decided that yes aa's are attractive but with an appropriate aromatic compound to go with them become much more attractive. I started to look at pyrazines and many other compounds that alongside aa's trigger a better response than plain aa's. I'm unclear why but it definitely has an impact like adding toasted sesame oil to a protein bait makes a big difference with the aromatic compound in the oil being di-methyl pyrazines and proving to make the bait much more attractive by at a guess reinforcing the protein here signal. But as ever it's all a bit of a guessing game
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #25 17 Nov 2024 13:32
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It's still an animal with free will at the end of the day, and within its specific environment and past experiences, there has to be an element of choice related to that.
Serenity
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Post #26 17 Nov 2024 13:42
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In reply to Post #21
There is no need for an angler to understand the function of each of the the carp's various chemical receptors or to determine the response of each one to different stimuli. None of this is very helpful to the practical angler. Instead, what he really needs to know - and nothing else - is what does the carp most want to eat today. Not last week, or next week , but today. Then it is a straightforward matter of applying this knowledge. Angling is simple, it is the commercial charlatans that pretend otherwise.
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #27 17 Nov 2024 15:32
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In reply to Post #26
Agreed. Where would be the fun in using a special guaranteed-to-catch formula, not that one exists. Taking out all of the elements of angling that most start angling for in the first place. Would be quite boring to chuck out a guaranteed attractor, then a bait that will 100% be eaten. I'm sure there'd be many to profit from such a thing though. Having said that though, just got myself a copy of Frank Warwick's book, and reading what he did with single hookbaits was brilliant. A massive edge that he kept to himself for a while, rinsed the lakes he fished on. I doubt there's anything out there with that potential now though, they've pretty much seen it all imo.
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #28 26 Nov 2024 20:59
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In reply to Post #23
whilst I do find the 'involuntary feeding response' a bit of a misnomer I do think there are certain substances that can make them want to feed more after they have started (there's something in hemp seed which is enhanced by TC's fermented garlic prep method for sure)

msg seems to have a similar effect in humans which - eating a Chinese takeaway & feeling like you want to eat more 15 mins after you've finished - not to mention the dorito's / pringles coatings - "once you pop, you can't stop"

wrt Patricks work - it's all been peer-reviewed & the science is spot on within the conditions he tested, as far as I can tell. He has a few lengthy explanations about his products, explaining the chemistry of how they work & his journey on the Biosource website.
Winkler
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Post #29 27 Nov 2024 08:50
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In reply to Post #28
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