In reply to Post #15
I think most Essex members clubs are like that from my experience. Disappointing really but greed and money ruin most things.
One day I'll be able to buy my own lake and have a syndicate of one...! Lol
I think most Essex members clubs are like that from my experience. Disappointing really but greed and money ruin most things.
One day I'll be able to buy my own lake and have a syndicate of one...! Lol
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In reply to Post #1
I don't know why that term boils my piss, but it does.
If you have absolutely no say in the running, maintenance and stocking policy of your water, you a merely a name on a spreadsheet. I can only think of only one, maybe two true syndicates near me. Both of which depends on who you're employed by and how many shares you want to buy. Once all the shares are gone, tough luck. Better hope that fella dies or he needs to sell his shares to pay for his divorce
I don't know why that term boils my piss, but it does.
If you have absolutely no say in the running, maintenance and stocking policy of your water, you a merely a name on a spreadsheet. I can only think of only one, maybe two true syndicates near me. Both of which depends on who you're employed by and how many shares you want to buy. Once all the shares are gone, tough luck. Better hope that fella dies or he needs to sell his shares to pay for his divorce
In reply to Post #19
Exactly exclusive members clubs !! Not syndicates
Exactly exclusive members clubs !! Not syndicates
In reply to Post #20
Syndicate - "a group of people or companies who join together in order to share the cost of a particular business operation for which a large amount of money is needed"
For example, paying for the land that YOU own and the fish that YOU own, not lease off a nameless land owner, via a "syndicate owner" you have never met.
The above sounds a lot different to the below...
Club - "an association dedicated to a particular interest or activity."
Association - "a group of people organised for a joint purpose"
Society - "an organization or club formed for a particular purpose or activity."
Pretty much the same thing.... you pay your subs, get your newsletter and your shiney gate key, and you benefit from what the club lease off a land owner. You don't own anything that club has, you are merely leasing it.
I used to belong to a "200 member syndicate". I didn't know anyone. I knew the name of the owner but didn't know the man. Didn't have a say on what he stocked, what maintenance was conducted, or how my membership was spent. All I know is, the money was being spent on other "syndicates" the bloke owned. I was a customer, not a syndicate member.
Syndicate - "a group of people or companies who join together in order to share the cost of a particular business operation for which a large amount of money is needed"
For example, paying for the land that YOU own and the fish that YOU own, not lease off a nameless land owner, via a "syndicate owner" you have never met.
The above sounds a lot different to the below...
Club - "an association dedicated to a particular interest or activity."
Association - "a group of people organised for a joint purpose"
Society - "an organization or club formed for a particular purpose or activity."
Pretty much the same thing.... you pay your subs, get your newsletter and your shiney gate key, and you benefit from what the club lease off a land owner. You don't own anything that club has, you are merely leasing it.
I used to belong to a "200 member syndicate". I didn't know anyone. I knew the name of the owner but didn't know the man. Didn't have a say on what he stocked, what maintenance was conducted, or how my membership was spent. All I know is, the money was being spent on other "syndicates" the bloke owned. I was a customer, not a syndicate member.
In reply to Post #21
What always cracks me up is the ****ing idiots that join work parties etc on these waters that call themselves syndicates when in fact they are business's , Roach Pit being a good example.
Bloke buy's lake charges you a fortune for fishing it then expects your free help to fence it and it's upkeep when at any time you could be turfed off. All this time he's making a nice living off your free labor you mug's.
I'm a member of an expensive golf club, members club, I've never been asked to mow the greens.
What always cracks me up is the ****ing idiots that join work parties etc on these waters that call themselves syndicates when in fact they are business's , Roach Pit being a good example.
Bloke buy's lake charges you a fortune for fishing it then expects your free help to fence it and it's upkeep when at any time you could be turfed off. All this time he's making a nice living off your free labor you mug's.
I'm a member of an expensive golf club, members club, I've never been asked to mow the greens.
In reply to Post #16
My wife has said on several occasions that she can't understand why I have members lol.
A syndicate of one sounds very sad to me. Maybe that'll change one day?
My wife has said on several occasions that she can't understand why I have members lol.
A syndicate of one sounds very sad to me. Maybe that'll change one day?
In reply to Post #23
Difference is you can chose your members ! Perhaps you are spoilt . Go fish a day ticket lake for a day and you may want a syndicate of one.
Difference is you can chose your members ! Perhaps you are spoilt . Go fish a day ticket lake for a day and you may want a syndicate of one.
In reply to Post #17
Tim was paying most of the cost of the fence and in Kicksys words "the syndicate is awash with money".
Tim was paying most of the cost of the fence and in Kicksys words "the syndicate is awash with money".
In reply to Post #25
There are more mystery's in said lakes finances than a Scooby Doo cartoon.......
There are more mystery's in said lakes finances than a Scooby Doo cartoon.......
In reply to Post #22
Remind me never to let you on my syndicate!
You do realise that he had to buy roach pit don't you? It was'nt given to him, Nearly 300k i think.
Some people care about the waters they fish and some don't. You clearly dont.
Remind me never to let you on my syndicate!
You do realise that he had to buy roach pit don't you? It was'nt given to him, Nearly 300k i think.
Some people care about the waters they fish and some don't. You clearly dont.
In reply to Post #27
What's having to buy it got to do with it you clown? It was bought to be run as a profitable business as was his lake in Reading neither are a charity and he charges accordingly, it isn't a syndicate.
If anyone wants to fish these sorts of waters then they shouldn't be expected to provide free labor whilst the owner is making a living from the venues, fair enough if you want to volunteer.
For the record I'm on a water with a head of fish to die for which i care passionately about, the owner runs it in the same way Roach and others are run AS A BUSINESS, in 12 years he's never had a work party despite being asked by the members, all operating costs come from the members fee's any work that needs doing comes from the fees/THE BUSINESS, it's his livelihood.
£300k is sod all too.
What's having to buy it got to do with it you clown? It was bought to be run as a profitable business as was his lake in Reading neither are a charity and he charges accordingly, it isn't a syndicate.
If anyone wants to fish these sorts of waters then they shouldn't be expected to provide free labor whilst the owner is making a living from the venues, fair enough if you want to volunteer.
For the record I'm on a water with a head of fish to die for which i care passionately about, the owner runs it in the same way Roach and others are run AS A BUSINESS, in 12 years he's never had a work party despite being asked by the members, all operating costs come from the members fee's any work that needs doing comes from the fees/THE BUSINESS, it's his livelihood.
£300k is sod all too.
In reply to Post #28
I agree if I'm paying top dollar for a syndicate ( Sorry I mean glorified exclusive club ticket) and it's someone business then why would I be doing work parties? Now if it's a proper syndicate or a club that's a different matter.
Carp fishing is big business and if you want to make money then surely keeping the lake in good condition is down to the owner.
Anyway I'm off to trim the greens at my local golf club.
I agree if I'm paying top dollar for a syndicate ( Sorry I mean glorified exclusive club ticket) and it's someone business then why would I be doing work parties? Now if it's a proper syndicate or a club that's a different matter.
Carp fishing is big business and if you want to make money then surely keeping the lake in good condition is down to the owner.
Anyway I'm off to trim the greens at my local golf club.
In reply to Post #28
Agree entirely, if its a business, the owners income, and your fees reflect this, then no way should you be expected to labour at work party's. Offering assistance is totally different, but making it a condition of membership no thanks.
Your local club totally different.
Agree entirely, if its a business, the owners income, and your fees reflect this, then no way should you be expected to labour at work party's. Offering assistance is totally different, but making it a condition of membership no thanks.
Your local club totally different.