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Beginner ish advice (42 posts / 2,529 views)
karmh karmh
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Post #16 2 Apr 2020 20:09
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The stiff link on the lead is to just get it out the way of the marker float I believe.
I mostly do days and overnights so thrashing the water I feel is counter productive most of the time, a spod rod and braided reel for baiting up I'd say is a good investment, doesn't need to be expensive though.
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onestripe
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Post #17 2 Apr 2020 21:07
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In reply to Post #16
So why do a lot of people do away with the stiff link then
karmh karmh
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Post #18 2 Apr 2020 21:11
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In reply to Post #17
Because it's not essential, just stops marker float getting bashed about with the lead
secret-agent secret-agent
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Post #19 2 Apr 2020 21:15
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A long stiff boom keeps the marker from getting caught in weed, the lead hits bottom but the float is already 1-2' off the bottom so doesn't get weeded around the swivel. Try casting a marker without one into weed and the float often won't come up.
onestripe
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Post #20 2 Apr 2020 21:23
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In reply to Post #17
I saw a video on Utube and the man said if the lead is in weed and there is no stiff link suspending the float 1ft higher, then the float will probably not rise
Cos the float will probably be stuck in the weed also
This tells you that you shouldn't be fishing on this spot
I thought, but why would you want to leave the lead in the weed anyway
onestripe
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Post #21 2 Apr 2020 21:28
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In reply to Post #19
Wouldn't that give you false information though.
Cos if the float doesn't rise, isn't that telling you what you want to know
That you shouldn't be fishing on that spot because the rig would be useless
secret-agent secret-agent
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Post #22 2 Apr 2020 21:31
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In reply to Post #21
If you're markering to find depth you want the float to rise.

onestripe
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Post #23 2 Apr 2020 21:37
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In reply to Post #22
True, I'm just trying to understand their way of thinking.
But why would it matter about the depth if the spot is unfishable
karmh karmh
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Post #24 2 Apr 2020 21:42
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In reply to Post #23
Why does it make it unfishable if there's a bit of weed?
onestripe
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Post #25 2 Apr 2020 21:48
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In reply to Post #24
The man said if the float doesn't rise, then the rig wouldn't be any use on that spot
Plus he said if the float was risen above the weed, and not getting stuck.
Then your not being told how snaggy the spot really is
phils_wicked phils_wicked
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Post #26 2 Apr 2020 21:48
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In reply to Post #23
Fish love weed mate. It holds all kinds of natural food and provides shelter. The magazine's and DVDs often promote finding firm, clear areas. This is because it is easier to ensure neat and tidy presentation and because these firm areas can be a sign of feeding fish. But not always.

There are many ways to present a bait to carp whilst in weed, but it can be tricky to get right.

I meant to add that it can also depend what type of weed is in the area. That bit can be equally important.

There are no hard and fast rules at all.

onestripe
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Post #27 2 Apr 2020 22:00
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In reply to Post #26
The man said if the float was risen by a ft then you wouldn't of been getting a true indication of how weedy the spot was
But I thought wouldn't the lead of told you that when you was dragging it along to fi d spots
onestripe
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Post #28 2 Apr 2020 22:06
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In reply to Post #27
https://youtu.be/Mh4JTe5ldHY
That's the short video
phils_wicked phils_wicked
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Post #29 2 Apr 2020 22:06
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In reply to Post #27
If it was heavily weeded I'm sure you would feel it as heavy resistance. If it's just light weed then maybe not so much.

The video is a little misleading, although I think it's unintentional.

When it's all setup. You cast it out, wind down till the float is pulled under and stops at the lead.

Then you can begin to slowly draw the lead, with the float butted up against it, back towards you.

Depending on the vibrations, resistance, thumping, felt in the rod at the time will teach you what the bottom consists of. A lot of time and practice needs to go into this.

Every now and then, you can allow the float to rise to the surface by pulling off 1ft of line at a time to tell the depth.

As a tough guide anyway.
onestripe
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Post #30 2 Apr 2020 22:24
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In reply to Post #29
I'm a novis, but am I right in thinking it does make sense in having no stiff link.
But instead have the float and the lead almost touching each other
That Ian bloke in vid was obviously trying to big up the product so it sells
But it did make sense what he was saying I thought.
But I'm not a experienced carp fisherman, I'm a beginner
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