When would I use a sweetener to round the flavours off I see some people recommended them and others don't any help would be great thanks lads

In reply to Post #16
Job plumb and buttringer, perfect combo

could anyone give me any advice on including sweetner I see some people recommend it and some don't

In reply to Post #18
Add it to the eggs

Lol thanks scaley

In reply to Post #20
Sorry for the humour.. lol
Sweetners are a personal choice, like colours. Some people rate them in a bait, others don't, no right or wrong choice really, just experiment.
Normally just 1-3ml of Liquid Sweeteners such as Talin or Essential baits Thaumatin-B is a full-strength natural protein sweetener, that would be my choice in a one or two egg mix of hookbaits.

Sweetners work nicely mixed with an amino liquid like Solars stimulin amino, Mainlines Multi Stim, or minamino.

After you have made your pop ups, things like bait soaks can keep them prepped up.
I often use as a light glaze every so often on a batch of hookbaits or corkballs from the below combo.
90ml Amino of choice above.
7ml of flavour attractor of choice
1-3ml Talin sweetener in a secure 100ml bottle, shake well before use and Just to appeal to the carps taste senses.
These are only a decent starting point, Levels can be adjusted to personal preference.

Thanks scaley appreciate it mate I will be using Thaumatin-b and see how it goes. I no mike wilmott speaks very highly of it in his book. 7ml of flavour in a pot? Obviously not in one go your just adding it over a course of months as an when they need it?

5m Banana,
5ml Scopex
5ml pineapple.
with five drops of n butyric.

will 15 ml of flavour even in a high attract single be too much ?

In reply to Post #23
Mix the flavours, then use 5ml of the mix along with 5 drops of n-butyric.

Thanks boycie got enough recipes to keep me going for a bit now

In reply to Post #25
I put the plum/squid one up for you in the UB thread

Absolute legend! Just what I was after.

So it would be 3ml plum,1ml squid, 1 drop of n butyic per egg I think that's right

In reply to Post #27
John Baker Plum
Solar S&O
Essential Squidstim
Essential FF6

Almost cheating

What amounts you using them at Bristol

In reply to Post #29
I have had success using them at what are considered to be VERY high levels. I should state that I have only used them as singles, not over bait at all.

2ml plum (MEGA pokey stuff)
10ml S&O
Half a teaspoon each of SS and FF6