In reply to Post #15
How odd
How odd
In reply to Post #16
How is it odd? I ordered something and didn't get what i ordered 🤷🏻♂️
If you ordered some 10mm pop ups and got sent some 24mm ones you would be fine with that as they could be the best pop ups in the world?
How is it odd? I ordered something and didn't get what i ordered 🤷🏻♂️
If you ordered some 10mm pop ups and got sent some 24mm ones you would be fine with that as they could be the best pop ups in the world?
In reply to Post #17
Well said.
Well said.
In reply to Post #17
So are they over twice the size that you ordered? Or are you just being daft? The shape of a bait is irrelevant. Your point makes absolutely no sense at all.
So are they over twice the size that you ordered? Or are you just being daft? The shape of a bait is irrelevant. Your point makes absolutely no sense at all.
In reply to Post #19
How is the shape irrelevant? My point was that I ordered round baits and that's what I'd expect to receive or are my expectations to high these days?
Ok so you ordered 10kg of 18mm round boiles and got sent 10kg of 18mm dumbells and that would be fine as shape is irrelevant
How is the shape irrelevant? My point was that I ordered round baits and that's what I'd expect to receive or are my expectations to high these days?
Ok so you ordered 10kg of 18mm round boiles and got sent 10kg of 18mm dumbells and that would be fine as shape is irrelevant
In reply to Post #20
Firstly I dont order bait, I make it. You are being pedantic. For loose feed using a stick for instance then you want uniform shapes for accuracy. But you weren't saying that, you were saying for hookbaits. Which as they are attached to a hook, generally go wherever you cast the rig it's attached to. So yes, bait shape is irrelevant. You're basically saying you don't care if the bait is the best bait around, if it's not perfectly round you won't use it. Which is daft.
Firstly I dont order bait, I make it. You are being pedantic. For loose feed using a stick for instance then you want uniform shapes for accuracy. But you weren't saying that, you were saying for hookbaits. Which as they are attached to a hook, generally go wherever you cast the rig it's attached to. So yes, bait shape is irrelevant. You're basically saying you don't care if the bait is the best bait around, if it's not perfectly round you won't use it. Which is daft.
In reply to Post #21
Never said it has to be perfectly round, but if I want to use/buy a round pop up then that's what I want to do. Not oval shaped, not cube shaped, not dumbell shaped. If other people are fine with buying/using mi-shaped baits then that's perfectly fine. There maybe nothing wrong with the baits as they are but they aren't for me as they are not what I wanted/ordered
But if someone is selling round baits then surly the least you'd expect to receive is round baits or shall we all just be happy to get what we are given
Never said it has to be perfectly round, but if I want to use/buy a round pop up then that's what I want to do. Not oval shaped, not cube shaped, not dumbell shaped. If other people are fine with buying/using mi-shaped baits then that's perfectly fine. There maybe nothing wrong with the baits as they are but they aren't for me as they are not what I wanted/ordered
But if someone is selling round baits then surly the least you'd expect to receive is round baits or shall we all just be happy to get what we are given
In reply to Post #22
Try to justify if however you want but you are being pedantic. I take it you have returned them if they are that bad? After all, if they aren't what you deemed you paid for then you are within your rights, no? How about putting up some pictures of these so us that have never seen them can see just how mishaped they are(not that it matters)? It really does seem backwards thinking to right off a hookbait merely because it's a bit mis shaped. It could actually work in your favour, after all the vast majority of people use perfectly round baits...
Try to justify if however you want but you are being pedantic. I take it you have returned them if they are that bad? After all, if they aren't what you deemed you paid for then you are within your rights, no? How about putting up some pictures of these so us that have never seen them can see just how mishaped they are(not that it matters)? It really does seem backwards thinking to right off a hookbait merely because it's a bit mis shaped. It could actually work in your favour, after all the vast majority of people use perfectly round baits...
How am I being pedantic? Yes there's no doubt mis shaped baits will work, never said they wouldn't? All I'm saying is they are not what I wanted, is that so hard to understand? They don't take returns apparently so that's why I'll be moving them on
To put another spin on it. You order a new car and want it in black but you get a dark grey (would say red but no doubt you'd say “well that's completely different” like with the 10mm 24mm point I was trying to make) now this new dark grey car you've got is nearly the black you wanted but not quite what you was after. You'd obviously keep the car because it will still do the job of the black car
I don't get how you don't think I've got a point 🤷🏻♂️
This will be my last on this as obviously I'm in the wrong for expecting something I ordered and I should just be so grateful I got something.
End of the day they were an impulse buy that were on offer, not a great deal of money. No doubt they are good baits and catch fish but they aren't for me so won't be using them again. Like I said other people might be happy with them and good luck to them. Not the end of the world and life goes on
To put another spin on it. You order a new car and want it in black but you get a dark grey (would say red but no doubt you'd say “well that's completely different” like with the 10mm 24mm point I was trying to make) now this new dark grey car you've got is nearly the black you wanted but not quite what you was after. You'd obviously keep the car because it will still do the job of the black car
I don't get how you don't think I've got a point 🤷🏻♂️
This will be my last on this as obviously I'm in the wrong for expecting something I ordered and I should just be so grateful I got something.
End of the day they were an impulse buy that were on offer, not a great deal of money. No doubt they are good baits and catch fish but they aren't for me so won't be using them again. Like I said other people might be happy with them and good luck to them. Not the end of the world and life goes on
In reply to Post #24
I've explained how you are being pedantic, and your car analogy is even worse than your 10kg of dumbells one!
I've explained how you are being pedantic, and your car analogy is even worse than your 10kg of dumbells one!
In reply to Post #25
In reply to Post #26
make your own baits, so much easier and you can control everything, add to that, its a dam sight cheaper and better.
make your own baits, so much easier and you can control everything, add to that, its a dam sight cheaper and better.
In reply to Post #27
I agree but i do need more practice. Got rollibg tables and station from a dear friend of mine. Guna give it aho before christnas now if i get a chance
I agree but i do need more practice. Got rollibg tables and station from a dear friend of mine. Guna give it aho before christnas now if i get a chance
In reply to Post #23
I actually agree with boo. I'm sorry but if your a bait company that can't control the quality of the shape of your baits, which less face it really isn't difficult, (and that comes from experience) I'd be more worried about what other bits don't get the same attention to detail.
With regards to mis shaped HOOK baits, put one in the water next to a perfectly round one and see how the round one will spin and not settle in a certain spot, and how the mis shaped one will always have a more buoyant bit that wants to touch the surface, tie that on a delicate rig, see how it'll sit crooked, I've tested it to destruction. Your hookbait is the most vital part of your rig, it should have 100% confidence behind it, it should be exactly how you want it and if your buying, should be how you expect it to be.
Im in the same boat funnily enough, and they are being sent back, he's a nice enough bloke and seems happy to sort it out, unfortunately for me it's once bitten twice shy, I won't be using them again.
I actually agree with boo. I'm sorry but if your a bait company that can't control the quality of the shape of your baits, which less face it really isn't difficult, (and that comes from experience) I'd be more worried about what other bits don't get the same attention to detail.
With regards to mis shaped HOOK baits, put one in the water next to a perfectly round one and see how the round one will spin and not settle in a certain spot, and how the mis shaped one will always have a more buoyant bit that wants to touch the surface, tie that on a delicate rig, see how it'll sit crooked, I've tested it to destruction. Your hookbait is the most vital part of your rig, it should have 100% confidence behind it, it should be exactly how you want it and if your buying, should be how you expect it to be.
Im in the same boat funnily enough, and they are being sent back, he's a nice enough bloke and seems happy to sort it out, unfortunately for me it's once bitten twice shy, I won't be using them again.
In reply to Post #28
just roll them by hand mate...
just roll them by hand mate...