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Looking at your ingredients I think you probably get them from the same place as me. If so have a look at their acid whey, I'm really impressed with it. Like their hydolised whey as well, better than the peptpro in fact.
Looking at your ingredients I think you probably get them from the same place as me. If so have a look at their acid whey, I'm really impressed with it. Like their hydolised whey as well, better than the peptpro in fact.
In reply to Post #13
But as things in life progress, ingredients do improve, like Whey Protein, which years ago was considered a waste product.
But it is now most companies that are into Sport nutrition products top profit earner, and has millions spent on it.
Suddenly becomes available as Hydrolysed/pre-digested/more soluble.
Never used it, Hydrolysed Casein, Whey or Lactalbumin - but imagine it has great potential, the barbel boys seem to great excited about it in a bait, or paste.
That is - If you strike that fine balance between practical fishing bait and soluble attraction.
But as things in life progress, ingredients do improve, like Whey Protein, which years ago was considered a waste product.
But it is now most companies that are into Sport nutrition products top profit earner, and has millions spent on it.
Suddenly becomes available as Hydrolysed/pre-digested/more soluble.
Never used it, Hydrolysed Casein, Whey or Lactalbumin - but imagine it has great potential, the barbel boys seem to great excited about it in a bait, or paste.
That is - If you strike that fine balance between practical fishing bait and soluble attraction.
In reply to Post #11
BB I have never used peptopro, so it has 85% protein, is a highly hydrolysed (28%) enzymatic digestion of casein, all 20 amino acids looks very good.
By that I mean Is it really worth the £49 odd per kilo price tag
in our bait, even in small amounts.
BB I have never used peptopro, so it has 85% protein, is a highly hydrolysed (28%) enzymatic digestion of casein, all 20 amino acids looks very good.
By that I mean Is it really worth the £49 odd per kilo price tag
in our bait, even in small amounts.
In reply to Post #15
Some excellent suggestions chaps, food for thought. Thank you.
And yes BB, I would also be adding enzymes, but didn't want to confuse things at this stage.
Scaley... I've used the hydrolysed Whey before up to 10% and really like it. The casein hydro/peptopro looks great but is very expensive, hydrolysed lactalbumin even more unfortunately
Some excellent suggestions chaps, food for thought. Thank you.
And yes BB, I would also be adding enzymes, but didn't want to confuse things at this stage.
Scaley... I've used the hydrolysed Whey before up to 10% and really like it. The casein hydro/peptopro looks great but is very expensive, hydrolysed lactalbumin even more unfortunately
In reply to Post #17
Hi Christian,
Not sure that the whey hydros are better than peptopro, at least, on paper.
Peptopro has a far higher degree of hydrolysis, around 30% which produces about 80% di and tri peptides and 7-5% free AAs.
BB.
Hi Christian,
Not sure that the whey hydros are better than peptopro, at least, on paper.
Peptopro has a far higher degree of hydrolysis, around 30% which produces about 80% di and tri peptides and 7-5% free AAs.
BB.
In reply to Post #20
Thanks for that. By the way I found it on bulkpowders, Is that where you get it from.
If anyone is interested - if you spend over £20 you get 45% off with a discount code.
500g normally would be £32.49, would then become £17.87 + P&P
So if anyone is interested that makes it a more reasonable on the pocket.
Thanks for that. By the way I found it on bulkpowders, Is that where you get it from.
If anyone is interested - if you spend over £20 you get 45% off with a discount code.
500g normally would be £32.49, would then become £17.87 + P&P
So if anyone is interested that makes it a more reasonable on the pocket.
In reply to Post #19
Hi scaley,
Peptopro is really expensive, but NW said no cost restraint.
Also, the companies that sell these milk protein supplements are always offering discounts of 30% or even 40%. Even then, I agree, they are still expensive.
BB.
Hi scaley,
Peptopro is really expensive, but NW said no cost restraint.
Also, the companies that sell these milk protein supplements are always offering discounts of 30% or even 40%. Even then, I agree, they are still expensive.
BB.
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Should be quite an interesting thread this
Should be quite an interesting thread this
In reply to Post #21
Agreed the peptpro has a higher degree of hydrolysis but it also means that the margin for error is greater with regards quantity in the mix. I'm pretty sure I overdid the hydro products on one occasion so very wary nowadays. 5% of the whey seems about right.
Agreed the peptpro has a higher degree of hydrolysis but it also means that the margin for error is greater with regards quantity in the mix. I'm pretty sure I overdid the hydro products on one occasion so very wary nowadays. 5% of the whey seems about right.
In reply to Post #26
Thanks Christian.
What total levels of Solubles are you guys happy rolling bait with, before it won't roll well/or falls apart 2 minutes after casting out.
Thanks Christian.
What total levels of Solubles are you guys happy rolling bait with, before it won't roll well/or falls apart 2 minutes after casting out.
In reply to Post #26
Hi christian,
Not sure what you mean by overdoing the hydros.
Do you mean making rolling difficult?
Hi Scaley,
I only make paste bait, so I have no restriction on solubles.
BB.
Hi christian,
Not sure what you mean by overdoing the hydros.
Do you mean making rolling difficult?
Hi Scaley,
I only make paste bait, so I have no restriction on solubles.
BB.
In reply to Post #28
Ok BB, That makes more sense, paste potential, more than boiled baits.
Less damage to the proteins and maximum Amino acid attraction.
Ok BB, That makes more sense, paste potential, more than boiled baits.
Less damage to the proteins and maximum Amino acid attraction.
In reply to Post #29
Hi Scaley,
I can only fish short day sessions, so I use paste for feed, which I try to make as instantly attractive as I can.
That's why I'm trying to make an enzyme paste.
BB.
Hi Scaley,
I can only fish short day sessions, so I use paste for feed, which I try to make as instantly attractive as I can.
That's why I'm trying to make an enzyme paste.
BB.