ive never had the luck of landing something special enough to have to sack it until morning for a trophy shot, but since this article i was always against sacking due to the stories about it not being done properly.
but if i ever have to i shall make sure i follow the instructions!
Even thoughi shouldnt have to because sacking is banned on the lakes i fish...
but if i ever have to i shall make sure i follow the instructions!
Even thoughi shouldnt have to because sacking is banned on the lakes i fish...
In reply to Post #1000
last year i had a 48 in france that i tried to sack... for shots in morning... but bugger if she would go down . all the time she sat just under the surface .. so just took horrid night shots ... or would she of been fine in the upper layers of the water. the others happily went down to 7ft and sat quiet.
was april and not too hot
last year i had a 48 in france that i tried to sack... for shots in morning... but bugger if she would go down . all the time she sat just under the surface .. so just took horrid night shots ... or would she of been fine in the upper layers of the water. the others happily went down to 7ft and sat quiet.
was april and not too hot
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In reply to Post #21
Thanks for you input. However, this thread is not about the morality of sacking. If you wish to discuss that aspect there are loads threads on the topic on here.
@ John: I too have seen fish that sit high in the water when sacked. At first I would try to encourage them to drop lower in the water but they would often resurface again. I cannot explain this behaviour but they always swim off strongly.
Thanks for you input. However, this thread is not about the morality of sacking. If you wish to discuss that aspect there are loads threads on the topic on here.
@ John: I too have seen fish that sit high in the water when sacked. At first I would try to encourage them to drop lower in the water but they would often resurface again. I cannot explain this behaviour but they always swim off strongly.
In reply to Post #1000
very good info as usual ken i shal remember about resting them a while and letting them adjust to daylight a lot of stress would be saved all round thankyou for the info
very good info as usual ken i shal remember about resting them a while and letting them adjust to daylight a lot of stress would be saved all round thankyou for the info
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Edit: Found my answer
Edit: Found my answer
In reply to Post #1000
Good article Ken.
As a fellow sailor I particularly like the knots and splicing
Good article Ken.
As a fellow sailor I particularly like the knots and splicing
In reply to Post #1000
Top work mate.
Ad you say, nothing wrong with sacks if thought is put into using them.
Top work mate.
Ad you say, nothing wrong with sacks if thought is put into using them.
Nice to see simple instructions to what I have never really considered doing before. I personally don't mind having pics taken at night although I might think otherwise if I had caught an English 40.
As I'm a novice when it comes to sacking I have a few questions that might seem obvious to some but if you don't know, you don't know and carp safety comes first.
1) If conditions were fine, what is the maximum time you would leave a carp sacked for?
2) Don't they go mad when they're sacked and in the water? As in flapping all over the shop to try and free themeselves? I mean they must be a bit confused lol
3) Do you find it hard to sleep when you've sacked a fish? Me personally would be worrying every 5 minutes that the carp was still there but I suppose you grow in confidence the more you use it
As I'm a novice when it comes to sacking I have a few questions that might seem obvious to some but if you don't know, you don't know and carp safety comes first.
1) If conditions were fine, what is the maximum time you would leave a carp sacked for?
2) Don't they go mad when they're sacked and in the water? As in flapping all over the shop to try and free themeselves? I mean they must be a bit confused lol
3) Do you find it hard to sleep when you've sacked a fish? Me personally would be worrying every 5 minutes that the carp was still there but I suppose you grow in confidence the more you use it
Great post ken
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Hi Ken
Great article!
I very rarely sack my fish but when I do I use a floating one from Fox, which to my way of thinking is an truly excellent bit of kit. However, I notice that you don't recommend the use of floating sacks for more than a very short period of time. Could you explain why please?
I have found that fish have much less of a tendency to lie on their sides in a floating sack and figured that the less constrained conditions in a well made floating sack would be a lot better for the fish...i have never noticed them flapping about or struggling in one and feel they are far less likely to damage their fins than if constrained by wet materiel clinging to them.
My train of thought is that when you catch a carp, it is better to keep the number of manipulations to a minimum and that a floating sack come weigh sling allows you to take a couple of extra and unnecessary transfers out of the equation, leaving less actions that might put the fish at risk.
My sequence is from landing net to weigh sling/floating sack on the mat, then weigh the fish directly, put floating sack back into the water to get camera gear ready and set up...if not already done in advance. Once the pics are done over the mat and sling, I put the fish back into floating sac/sling, then fold the mat (I have a folding one with handles) and carry to water for release.
It seems the best and safest way to me, but I am always open to new ideas for improving my fish handling skills, so your advice would be very much appreciated, especially if it appears I am doing something wrong!
A quick note to anyone coming to fish on public waters here in France, sacking fish at night here is illegal and is one of the first things a garde de peche is likely to check on if you get a nocturnal visit. This is one of the reasons I very rarely sack my fish.
Hi Ken
Great article!
I very rarely sack my fish but when I do I use a floating one from Fox, which to my way of thinking is an truly excellent bit of kit. However, I notice that you don't recommend the use of floating sacks for more than a very short period of time. Could you explain why please?
I have found that fish have much less of a tendency to lie on their sides in a floating sack and figured that the less constrained conditions in a well made floating sack would be a lot better for the fish...i have never noticed them flapping about or struggling in one and feel they are far less likely to damage their fins than if constrained by wet materiel clinging to them.
My train of thought is that when you catch a carp, it is better to keep the number of manipulations to a minimum and that a floating sack come weigh sling allows you to take a couple of extra and unnecessary transfers out of the equation, leaving less actions that might put the fish at risk.
My sequence is from landing net to weigh sling/floating sack on the mat, then weigh the fish directly, put floating sack back into the water to get camera gear ready and set up...if not already done in advance. Once the pics are done over the mat and sling, I put the fish back into floating sac/sling, then fold the mat (I have a folding one with handles) and carry to water for release.
It seems the best and safest way to me, but I am always open to new ideas for improving my fish handling skills, so your advice would be very much appreciated, especially if it appears I am doing something wrong!
A quick note to anyone coming to fish on public waters here in France, sacking fish at night here is illegal and is one of the first things a garde de peche is likely to check on if you get a nocturnal visit. This is one of the reasons I very rarely sack my fish.
In reply to Post #29
Hi Guy,
Floating sling/retainers were never intended to be anything other than a short term recovery area or a brief resting place while the camera gear is set up. Fish that are retained for long periods - several hours or overnight - in such a retaining sling have been known to suffer swim bladder adjustment problems . If you want to sack a fish for anything other than say 15 minutes, then a proper carp sack is the answer, and one with a long cord too which will allow the fish to find its comfort level in the water.
Hi Guy,
Floating sling/retainers were never intended to be anything other than a short term recovery area or a brief resting place while the camera gear is set up. Fish that are retained for long periods - several hours or overnight - in such a retaining sling have been known to suffer swim bladder adjustment problems . If you want to sack a fish for anything other than say 15 minutes, then a proper carp sack is the answer, and one with a long cord too which will allow the fish to find its comfort level in the water.
In reply to Post #30
Hi Ken,
really good article that everyone should have a read of. I have sacked fish before when catching large carp in the hours of darkness and have not had any issues.
The sack I have was eaten by mice this winter and I am looking at purchasing a new one.
Have you got any recommendations that you have seen.
Thanks
Tich
Hi Ken,
really good article that everyone should have a read of. I have sacked fish before when catching large carp in the hours of darkness and have not had any issues.
The sack I have was eaten by mice this winter and I am looking at purchasing a new one.
Have you got any recommendations that you have seen.
Thanks
Tich
In reply to Post #1000
Frankly i have no problem with them if used correctly, a good post.
Frankly i have no problem with them if used correctly, a good post.
I like the Fox ones...Nice strong cord, solid and secure fittings and a good zip. Fitted with two carrying handles.