In reply to Post #272
I think you are right. We are in a really bad place right now and the people in charge everywhere are trying to juggle 15 balls while riding a unicycycle with a puncture to give a sense of normality. The daily government update is a joke, with joke statistics. Purely political exercise by government. I'm a grown up, why aren't they.
I think you are right. We are in a really bad place right now and the people in charge everywhere are trying to juggle 15 balls while riding a unicycycle with a puncture to give a sense of normality. The daily government update is a joke, with joke statistics. Purely political exercise by government. I'm a grown up, why aren't they.
In reply to Post #272
Never
Never
In reply to Post #272
We might not be even fishing in the UK this year, the latest W.H.O. statement that the antibodies tests are a waste of space and that there is no evidence that people cannot get the virus more than once is another nail in any lockdown being lifted. Going to build a 9 hole crazy golf set up in my garden to stop me going crazy.
We might not be even fishing in the UK this year, the latest W.H.O. statement that the antibodies tests are a waste of space and that there is no evidence that people cannot get the virus more than once is another nail in any lockdown being lifted. Going to build a 9 hole crazy golf set up in my garden to stop me going crazy.
In reply to Post #274
We all need to get real. This is the real deal. A pandemic of an unknown virus against which we have no defenses except our own immune systems. Until a safe and effective vaccine is developed, manufactured and distributed, none of this is going away and a lot more people are going to die. None of this is going to be measured in weeks. There is a long difficult road ahead for us all. Unfortunately for all us anglers our tickets, licences, memberships and holiday bookings are all insignificant, unimportant personal losses. This is going to have to play out to nature's rules whatever Trump and that Brazilian fellow nincompoop think. Sorry but that's how I see it. A lot of bright people have been modelling this for decades
We all need to get real. This is the real deal. A pandemic of an unknown virus against which we have no defenses except our own immune systems. Until a safe and effective vaccine is developed, manufactured and distributed, none of this is going away and a lot more people are going to die. None of this is going to be measured in weeks. There is a long difficult road ahead for us all. Unfortunately for all us anglers our tickets, licences, memberships and holiday bookings are all insignificant, unimportant personal losses. This is going to have to play out to nature's rules whatever Trump and that Brazilian fellow nincompoop think. Sorry but that's how I see it. A lot of bright people have been modelling this for decades
In reply to Post #276
Spot on
Spot on
In reply to Post #276
If you have the Corona virus you have a 98% chance of survival.
Of those who have died 91% were elderly and had 2 or more existing medical conditions. 150,000 have died worldwide from a population of 8 billion. I think we need a bit of perspective.
If you have the Corona virus you have a 98% chance of survival.
Of those who have died 91% were elderly and had 2 or more existing medical conditions. 150,000 have died worldwide from a population of 8 billion. I think we need a bit of perspective.
In reply to Post #278
latest figures:
156,338 deaths
World pop. 7.8 billion
so about 0.002%
just for perspective roughly 1.5million die from Tuberculosis every year
latest figures:
156,338 deaths
World pop. 7.8 billion
so about 0.002%
just for perspective roughly 1.5million die from Tuberculosis every year
In reply to Post #278
Agree perspective is needed. Don't know where your figures come from, but using them and your logic this is the perspective view. World wide 160 million deaths, UK 1.2 million deaths. No problems there then.
Agree perspective is needed. Don't know where your figures come from, but using them and your logic this is the perspective view. World wide 160 million deaths, UK 1.2 million deaths. No problems there then.
The trouble with this virus is it is still an unknown quantity, and who it effects and how badly. A girl i work with her brother had it he is a healthy 50 year old bloke no known health issues, non smoker ran every day played five a side football every week.
Three weeks ago he got mildly ill after about two weeks deteriorated badly got taken to hospital and put in induced coma and ventilator for days, fortunately he was brought round and appears to be making a good recovery.
Someone that works on the other shift lost his mum to it on friday, unbeknown to us he had been in close contact with his mum and may have brought it into work yet he has no symptoms but about 10 days ago and engineer off the same shift went off with severe temperature and cough struggling for breath he couldn't do anything for two days just bed ridden, now slowly recovering but hasn't been tested, yet this guy is in early 60's has had several major health problems including a stroke last year.
Another engineers wife who works at tesco, had her friend who worked alongside her become ill last week all the symptoms went home a couple of days later passed away in her sleep, almost certainly a corona virus death that wasn't recorded.
Id be surprised if anything gets back to normal this year with foreign traveling and fishing.
Three weeks ago he got mildly ill after about two weeks deteriorated badly got taken to hospital and put in induced coma and ventilator for days, fortunately he was brought round and appears to be making a good recovery.
Someone that works on the other shift lost his mum to it on friday, unbeknown to us he had been in close contact with his mum and may have brought it into work yet he has no symptoms but about 10 days ago and engineer off the same shift went off with severe temperature and cough struggling for breath he couldn't do anything for two days just bed ridden, now slowly recovering but hasn't been tested, yet this guy is in early 60's has had several major health problems including a stroke last year.
Another engineers wife who works at tesco, had her friend who worked alongside her become ill last week all the symptoms went home a couple of days later passed away in her sleep, almost certainly a corona virus death that wasn't recorded.
Id be surprised if anything gets back to normal this year with foreign traveling and fishing.
In reply to Post #282
Unknown or not. The figures speak for themselves.
Malaria kills around 2 to 3 million yearly.
Hunger kills 9 million.
Aids 700,000 deaths yearly.
Tuberculosis 1.5 million deaths yearly.
Dirty drinking water account for almost half a million deaths each year.
Again I say...... perspective.
Unknown or not. The figures speak for themselves.
Malaria kills around 2 to 3 million yearly.
Hunger kills 9 million.
Aids 700,000 deaths yearly.
Tuberculosis 1.5 million deaths yearly.
Dirty drinking water account for almost half a million deaths each year.
Again I say...... perspective.
In reply to Post #283
Problem is there is no vaccine or any other solution for this virus at the moment.
No good sticking your head in the ground is it?
We have to get through this and stick to the rules, simple as that.
Problem is there is no vaccine or any other solution for this virus at the moment.
No good sticking your head in the ground is it?
We have to get through this and stick to the rules, simple as that.
In reply to Post #283
Add Covid19which attacks the weak and vulnerable. Hungry, thirsty people carrying parasites and the many other third world health problems with no health infrastructure in their nations. What are the figures likely to be then This has a long way to go. Does anybody know what is going to happen? No. Got a vaccine? No. This is not going to be over in weeks or months. We are still in the initial phase. With the exception of aids, we have effective treatments for the other diseases mentioned, including diseases transmitted in dirty water and people have a level of resistance to them, for Covid we don't. I'm not saying we won't prevail, we will but this is not some minor inconvenience delaying people's holiday. Glad you have such a detached perspective on so many millions of deaths.
Add Covid19which attacks the weak and vulnerable. Hungry, thirsty people carrying parasites and the many other third world health problems with no health infrastructure in their nations. What are the figures likely to be then This has a long way to go. Does anybody know what is going to happen? No. Got a vaccine? No. This is not going to be over in weeks or months. We are still in the initial phase. With the exception of aids, we have effective treatments for the other diseases mentioned, including diseases transmitted in dirty water and people have a level of resistance to them, for Covid we don't. I'm not saying we won't prevail, we will but this is not some minor inconvenience delaying people's holiday. Glad you have such a detached perspective on so many millions of deaths.
Spot on, Lance & Robby. Perspective is all very well but until this thing has run its course quoting perspective is meaningless.
In reply to Post #286
I had 3 trips planned early, late March ,,may & June , put them all back to October/ November , might be lucky might not ?
Staying safe is far more important than fishing , bloody hard though 🙄
I had 3 trips planned early, late March ,,may & June , put them all back to October/ November , might be lucky might not ?
Staying safe is far more important than fishing , bloody hard though 🙄