In reply to Post #2535
Apparently they're all Russian to get hold of it....
This joke was brought to you by the 1970's
Apparently they're all Russian to get hold of it....
This joke was brought to you by the 1970's
In reply to Post #2535
Rishi Sunak Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Comments on the government's own Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities -
"But if I think about the things that happened to me when I was a kid, I can't imagine those things happening to me now."
You'd think this guy was good with numbers given his position. He's 40, where does he think the people that were racist towards him have gone
Comments on the government's own Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities -
"But if I think about the things that happened to me when I was a kid, I can't imagine those things happening to me now."
You'd think this guy was good with numbers given his position. He's 40, where does he think the people that were racist towards him have gone
In reply to Post #2538
Covid passports rearing their heads again. With the majority of over 50's vaccinated, and all the vulnerable vaccinated, what is the actual point?
Covid passports rearing their heads again. With the majority of over 50's vaccinated, and all the vulnerable vaccinated, what is the actual point?
In reply to Post #2539
Concerns the virus could mutate and re-infect those who have been vaccinated.?
Concerns the virus could mutate and re-infect those who have been vaccinated.?
There is considerable anger within the EU at the UK over Brexit and the Bloc is behaving like a sulky baby. The sooner the EU accepts that Brexit is done and dusted and starts to look at the bigger picture the better. The UK deems it better to be outside the EU. Perhaps the EU could simply get on with it and look on the bright side for once and consider that the Bloc is actually better off post Brexit.
Look for the advantages that may result instead of harping on all the time about the disadvantages. The Bloc as a whole has enormous bargaining power and could easily form new (and better?) alliances if it would just get up off its asre and stop pouting like a sulky child. It's distaterous handling of Covid and the vaccines is a classic example of the EU shoting itself in the foot because of a strop over Brexit. OK, maybe this is over simplifying things but Macron in particul;ar should stop doing a De Gaulle and try leading for once in his pampered, priviledged life.
(And this is from a staunch anti-Brexiteer, BTW.)
Look for the advantages that may result instead of harping on all the time about the disadvantages. The Bloc as a whole has enormous bargaining power and could easily form new (and better?) alliances if it would just get up off its asre and stop pouting like a sulky child. It's distaterous handling of Covid and the vaccines is a classic example of the EU shoting itself in the foot because of a strop over Brexit. OK, maybe this is over simplifying things but Macron in particul;ar should stop doing a De Gaulle and try leading for once in his pampered, priviledged life.
(And this is from a staunch anti-Brexiteer, BTW.)
In reply to Post #2541
I don't sense any anger from here in Italy. Firms with UK suppliers have, in many cases, found other EU suppliers to make life easier, and it's very much as case of 'whatever' now.
The EU's disastrous handling of Covid and the vaccine rollout has little or nothing to do with brexit. The 'Oxford' bit of the AZ is only used by the British media. As far as everyone here is concerned AZ is a multi-national with plants all over Europe, it's certainly not seen as a 'British' vaccine.
Too much of that sovereignty that the UK was so worried about letting every country do what it wants with no coordinated plan to do anything. Bloody shambles. But brexit's old news here ... noone gives a toss now. Except me, because I can't use my favourite bait suppliers.
I don't sense any anger from here in Italy. Firms with UK suppliers have, in many cases, found other EU suppliers to make life easier, and it's very much as case of 'whatever' now.
The EU's disastrous handling of Covid and the vaccine rollout has little or nothing to do with brexit. The 'Oxford' bit of the AZ is only used by the British media. As far as everyone here is concerned AZ is a multi-national with plants all over Europe, it's certainly not seen as a 'British' vaccine.
Too much of that sovereignty that the UK was so worried about letting every country do what it wants with no coordinated plan to do anything. Bloody shambles. But brexit's old news here ... noone gives a toss now. Except me, because I can't use my favourite bait suppliers.
In reply to Post #2539
Devils advocate here - you could flip that and say 'what's the objection?'
I guess from a business owner perspective it only takes one positive case traced to their premises and they are back in shut down again losing money and sending staff home.
Pubs do proof of age without fussing which I know is slightly different but it does show that processes can be simple enough.
Devils advocate here - you could flip that and say 'what's the objection?'
I guess from a business owner perspective it only takes one positive case traced to their premises and they are back in shut down again losing money and sending staff home.
Pubs do proof of age without fussing which I know is slightly different but it does show that processes can be simple enough.
In reply to Post #2538
Maybe rishi should come to get a box of hot wings from KFC Blackburn. ..
It was a farce from start to finish. Let's pay someone who has already gone on record denying institutional racism to produce a report that fits the view that institutional racism doesn't exist here.
It's like asking Tazi's builders to do the surveying and QA report on their own work. 'No problems here mate!'
Maybe rishi should come to get a box of hot wings from KFC Blackburn. ..
It was a farce from start to finish. Let's pay someone who has already gone on record denying institutional racism to produce a report that fits the view that institutional racism doesn't exist here.
It's like asking Tazi's builders to do the surveying and QA report on their own work. 'No problems here mate!'
In reply to Post #2543
The thing is there is no flu passport, which in some peoples case can be as deadly. Sure, it could mutate, but there are no guarantees that the current protection would be good enough. I'll have the vaccine when offered, but absolutely against using it against someone who hasn't.
The thing is there is no flu passport, which in some peoples case can be as deadly. Sure, it could mutate, but there are no guarantees that the current protection would be good enough. I'll have the vaccine when offered, but absolutely against using it against someone who hasn't.
In reply to Post #2545
Absolutely take your point. I do think we are way past the flu parallels now given the context of the last year though.
There are people of all ages who, for medical reasons, can't have the vaccine. A little extra safety for them is a small price to ask I think. It's not 100 per cent, but it's better than zero.
If everyone is offered it with clear understanding of the benefits and potential restrictions then I'm not opposed to businesses protecting themselves, their staff and their customers. It doesn't need to be forever. It could just be a way of getting businesses open again a bit sooner and safer.
Lots of grey areas I know. Like my head...
Absolutely take your point. I do think we are way past the flu parallels now given the context of the last year though.
There are people of all ages who, for medical reasons, can't have the vaccine. A little extra safety for them is a small price to ask I think. It's not 100 per cent, but it's better than zero.
If everyone is offered it with clear understanding of the benefits and potential restrictions then I'm not opposed to businesses protecting themselves, their staff and their customers. It doesn't need to be forever. It could just be a way of getting businesses open again a bit sooner and safer.
Lots of grey areas I know. Like my head...
In reply to Post #2546
I do agree with the sentiment about protecting others, but when your chief medical advisor comes out with a statement about living with covid like we do the flu, then it's very easy to try and compare the two, well how we act socially at least.
Another question those who cant have the vaccine will they be allowed into pubs and restaurants anyway?? clearly apart from saying no there is no difference between someone who cant have the vaccine to someone who has refused it.
Think we are heading down a dangerous hole here, which maybe 2 years ago would of been swept aside as a silly idea, now becoming the norm
I do agree with the sentiment about protecting others, but when your chief medical advisor comes out with a statement about living with covid like we do the flu, then it's very easy to try and compare the two, well how we act socially at least.
Another question those who cant have the vaccine will they be allowed into pubs and restaurants anyway?? clearly apart from saying no there is no difference between someone who cant have the vaccine to someone who has refused it.
Think we are heading down a dangerous hole here, which maybe 2 years ago would of been swept aside as a silly idea, now becoming the norm
In reply to Post #2547
Fair points all.
My sister is in the can't have the vaccine club. She simply has regular tests at work that give her the all clear. A 15 minute wait isn't too much to ask.
Fair points all.
My sister is in the can't have the vaccine club. She simply has regular tests at work that give her the all clear. A 15 minute wait isn't too much to ask.
In reply to Post #2548
I know it's easier said then done but how about tests for those who haven't been vaccinated?
I know it's easier said then done but how about tests for those who haven't been vaccinated?
In reply to Post #2549
I think it could be the way to go, not sure how it will work though, maybe one that's been done up to 48hrs before? Obviously doesnt make it foolproof, but reduces the risk
I think it could be the way to go, not sure how it will work though, maybe one that's been done up to 48hrs before? Obviously doesnt make it foolproof, but reduces the risk