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Otters and the real damage (268 posts / 123,148 views)
WATERWOLF WATERWOLF
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Post #225 21 May 2016 14:31
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one of the members on my syndicate lake has just posted this on facebook and wants to know if its a possible otter attack



a closer look



personally I think not
midlandman midlandman
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Post #226 21 May 2016 21:07
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It might be, but I suspect not. I'd be interested to see the fins. If they are not damaged and no other signs of marks then I would say probably not an otter.
WATERWOLF WATERWOLF
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Post #227 21 May 2016 21:31
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there was no other visual damage on the fish according to the report
midlandman midlandman
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Post #228 21 May 2016 22:16
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Probably a spawning injury. The would will heal quicker than you might think and will simply be a 'bald patch' before too long.
capt_swearword
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Post #229 21 May 2016 22:26
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A wound like that would be a couple of weeks old, I would be surprised if its spawning damage. If it was a fish of a couple of pounds I would say it was heron damage. Its probably a bad infection, if its a healthy fish it should heal ok
midlandman midlandman
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Post #230 21 May 2016 23:38
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Yes, you may be right. It could be a bacterial infection.
Skear Skear
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Post #231 22 May 2016 10:20
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Looks like it's an old wound opened up by being dragged through a snag?

Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #232 22 May 2016 10:42
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i doubt thats an otter bite mate, it certianly doesnt look like one to me
MattH85 MattH85
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Post #233 22 May 2016 10:48
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i agree,looks like its been grabbed by an enthusiastic pike and got infected, as the scales are missing from the back in the right shape. Was the other side the same how bigs the fish?
If the lake doesn't have a fence though its only a matter of time
Badangler41
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Post #234 31 May 2016 17:36
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Hi , im fishing a large water with a small head of carp and now a small head of otters!

I would like to know how the carp have reacted to otters on other lakes!

Have they changed there feeding areas or there feeding patterns?
Seems like the worst spring for bites for a long while and wondered if its down to the otters? haven't seen any possibility of fish fatalities yet!

Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #235 1 Jun 2016 09:05
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Generally, you find the carp very "pacey", un settled, irritable.

They will almost stop feeding dependant on the amount of otter predation.

You will find, if the mother has cubs, that the fish will have damaged fins and tails as the mother injures its prey for the cubs, this will end up either killing the fish due to bacterial infection, or they will lay up stressed and just die if not eaten.

Its not a pretty picture nor thoughts of what predation of large fish can be, but its factual

Summer months, you will find the otter quite happy eating smaller silver fish and tend to leave the larger fish alone until winter when carp especially go very lethargic.

hope that helps
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #236 1 Jun 2016 09:12
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I will add....when I had otter problems 3 years running, I shut my lake down until I sorted it, twice I got it wrong, this time I hopefully have got it right...its the first winter in 4 that ive had no probs (touching wood as I type)

I shut it down as I didn't want anymore stress for the fish hooking them etc.

what I did find was that where a coupled of lads were pre baiting a couple of spots, that's where the otter was getting my fish for the obvious reasons ..so I stopped pre baiting during this period also, although, that did give me a pin point as to where the otter was getting in and out of the lake.

Im going to have some VERY important news soon re help, I WILL post it up soon as I can!!!!
midlandman midlandman
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Post #237 1 Jun 2016 13:36
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Thanks as ever for your input Frenzy
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #238 1 Jun 2016 13:41
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always here to help if and when i can mate

I may have stopped angling for now, but not my predation commitment
Badangler41
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Post #239 1 Jun 2016 14:12
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yes this is all an interesting and scary read,i do really appreciate the time you have spent replying!!
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