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France 2021... (1,005 posts / 95,949 views)
Hitman Hitman
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Post #198 10 May 2021 17:48
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So where I work I get tested twice a week and it shows up on a app (v passport ) whether it's positive or negative.
Now my question is would this be classed as a private test and therefore be acceptable as it's not nhs ??
Yidboy69
Posts: 1,058
Post #199 10 May 2021 19:22
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In reply to Post #198
We could do with a dedicated thread on travel.experiences ONLY. People who have attempted to fulfill their trip to France for example, did they get through or turned away, what were they actually asked to provide, are they actively checking for bait/food, what's the cheapest PCR test etc etc? Just a thought as so many questions still unanswered.
CarpCodger71 CarpCodger71
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Post #200 10 May 2021 21:53
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In reply to Post #199
Great idea .
The_Andyman The_Andyman
Posts: 11,333
Post #201 11 May 2021 12:58
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In reply to Post #194
But isn't that just because it is the correct current stance of the uk? Currently international leisure travel is illegal but on / after the 17th I suspect that site will change to remove that statement as it will only be recommended against travel to amber countries
bullseye bullseye
Posts: 489
Post #202 11 May 2021 13:24
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In reply to Post #194
Lake owner or bailiff will get your shipping. Pre covid it's something I've always done anyway. No skin off my nose popping down to get their stuff.
Silverslayer
Posts: 144
Post #203 11 May 2021 14:57
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In reply to Post #201
We dont know that


Yes it may change, but if it doesn't then whether "the ballif gets your food," (hes still got to give it to you so theres an interaction) or "youve been tested", or "you know you will be ok" or whatever other 'reason' you may well conjure up to justify your trip, its clearly for leisure purposes, and therefore (assuming the rules dont change) isnt permitted.

And there in lies the problem here. From the very beginning of this whole pandemic people have found 'reasons' or justifications as to why a certain rule doesnt apply to them!!!

No wonder we were hit so hard (albeit i admit there are other reasons at play).

Why do "you" (and i dont mean you as the poster or particular individual) get to decide what rules apply to you and what rules dont?

I often find that those individuals that are selective with their rule interpretation are the first to complain when others break other rukes!

Its a thin end if a wedge. Either we all accept all the rules whether we like them or think they are sensible or we dont.

Personally i dont like ANY of these covid rules, as in the same way i dont like the UK speed limits, VAT rules, taxation, and a whole host of other rules.

But...

If the rules dont change come May 17th, a fishing trip to France is not permitted because its clearly a leisure activity, and therefore illegal. However you try to dress it up or justify it.

Accordingly if you go (even if you conjure up some self justification) you deserve to be stopped, turned back and fined in the same way as i would be if i drive my car down the motorway at 130mph! ,

Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #204 11 May 2021 15:34
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Was due to be in France first weekend of June. Have just been emailed by the lake to say that France are not allowing any tourists in before 9th June so we are looking at moving our booking.
The_Andyman The_Andyman
Posts: 11,333
Post #205 11 May 2021 15:36
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In reply to Post #203
I don't disagree with your thoughts on the rules but you have said "IF" they don't change. Currently the government advised that is what will happen on the 17th, but as always in these discussions over the last year ish, it's all speculation until the dates and it is officially announced or not.

We will see next week hopefully


I agree with the bending / ignoring of the rules by people, possibly a contributing factor to this keep dragging on etc.
The_Andyman The_Andyman
Posts: 11,333
Post #206 11 May 2021 15:45
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In reply to Post #205
UK government pages

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-confirms-traffic-light-list-ahead-of-cautious-return-to-international-travel

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do#how-the-rules-will-change-on-17-may



There will no longer be a legal restriction or permitted reason required to travel internationally. There will be a traffic light system for international travel, and you must follow the rules when returning to England depending on whether you return from a red, amber or green list country.
Yidboy69
Posts: 1,058
Post #207 11 May 2021 17:21
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In reply to Post #206
Good afternoon everyone, as I told you we have been speaking to the English Ambassy yesterday and I have been phoning the Tourism Minister.
There has been some confusion on social media when you can travel to France.
Travel is permitted to France from the UK May 17th onwards. The requirements to enter France to the UK will be a negative PCR test prior to arrival.
France has stated that travel would be allowed for non EU countries from June 9th. The UK is one of the seven countries allowed to travel to France and this since the 12th March so it is definitely not illegal to travel in France.
I am joining to this post some informations that might interest you too.

Kind Regards

Pascale (Goncourt on FB)

P.s Also stated is that there are 7 non EU countries including the UK that can travel from 12th March along with EU countries ??
BRB BRB
Posts: 1,423
Post #208 11 May 2021 18:06
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In reply to Post #207
I for one remain confident that May 17th and June 9th will see a change for the better in line with the announcements already made by both UK & French governments.
Silverslayer
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Post #209 11 May 2021 20:42
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In reply to Post #207
Wrong.

And the other suggestions in otjer posts that from 17th May it is OK to travel to amber country for a holiday. It is not and rwmaims illegal.

Uk Government website says

"it is not permitted to travel for a holiday"

In both respect of amber and red countries.

Indeed British Airways has issued a notification to all customers booked on flights to red and amber countries after 17th May advising them that they can not travel for holiday or leisure purposes.

France may well be willing to let you in but its illegal for you to leave the UK. Government website clearly says that.

In the same way you are legality entitled to leave the uk to go on Holiday ro Australia from 17th May because its on tje Green list, but they wont let you in.

You can all justify it and read between the lines. But a French Fishing Holiday is illegal even after the 17th May.

I dont like or support these rules, but they are the rules.




The_Andyman The_Andyman
Posts: 11,333
Post #210 11 May 2021 20:44
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In reply to Post #209
You need to read the government links I posted that clearly shows you're wrong and that it will not be illegat for leisure travel from the 17th

No reading between the lines or trying to justify anything from me, just providing the facts from our government
Jurgen500
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Post #211 11 May 2021 21:29
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International leisure travel from the UK will be allowed from 17th May. Whether you get in depends on the rules of the country you are visiting. Whether you isolate on your return, either at home or in a hotel depends on where you came from.

Its that simple.

Covid test requirements will depend on the destination country, and of course the UK requirements foryour return.

Hopefully, EU traffic light status will change in June.

Hitman Hitman
Posts: 9,175
Post #212 12 May 2021 06:53
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In reply to Post #209
So it looks very likely the champions league is to be played in Portugal which is a green travel
Country, are you saying then that fans are not allowed to travel as this would fall under a leisure activity ???
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