In reply to Post #232
Good luck, Martin, and well done for getting to a doctor in time. Left too long this disease WILL KILL YOU. If Weils gets hold of you, unless you are very lucky, that's it...Curtains!
Martin: Welcome to the world of regular blood tests, liver/kidney scans, and general buggering up of your life by the healthcare professionals (I love them really). I caught it over 5 years ago and still have impaired liver function...Mind you, that could be down to the red wine! (Joke BTW)
Good luck, Martin, and well done for getting to a doctor in time. Left too long this disease WILL KILL YOU. If Weils gets hold of you, unless you are very lucky, that's it...Curtains!
Martin: Welcome to the world of regular blood tests, liver/kidney scans, and general buggering up of your life by the healthcare professionals (I love them really). I caught it over 5 years ago and still have impaired liver function...Mind you, that could be down to the red wine! (Joke BTW)
In reply to Post #226
i have to carry a green card with me all the time if i become ill as working with raw sewage every day
i have to carry a green card with me all the time if i become ill as working with raw sewage every day
this was on the news this morning for those that still take it that it could not happen to me....
Former Olympic rowing champion Andy Holmes, who won gold medals with Steve Redgrave at the 1984 and 1988 Games, died aged 51.
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..Holmes was taken ill last week with what media reports said was suspected to be a case of the rare bacterial disease leptospirosis, also called Weil's disease.
In a statement on its website, British Rowing said it was announcing his "tragic and untimely death with great sorrow".
Holmes won gold at Los Angeles in 1984 in the coxed four with Redgrave, Martin Cross, Richard Budgett and Adrian Ellison.
Four years later in Seoul he won gold in the pair, again with Redgrave, and bronze in the coxed pair, steered by Pat Sweeney.
Leptospirosis can be caught through contact with river or lake water when the water is contaminated by the urine of infected animals, and is a notorious disease amongst watersports athletes.
Former Olympic rowing champion Andy Holmes, who won gold medals with Steve Redgrave at the 1984 and 1988 Games, died aged 51.
Related LinksLondon 2012 build up
..Holmes was taken ill last week with what media reports said was suspected to be a case of the rare bacterial disease leptospirosis, also called Weil's disease.
In a statement on its website, British Rowing said it was announcing his "tragic and untimely death with great sorrow".
Holmes won gold at Los Angeles in 1984 in the coxed four with Redgrave, Martin Cross, Richard Budgett and Adrian Ellison.
Four years later in Seoul he won gold in the pair, again with Redgrave, and bronze in the coxed pair, steered by Pat Sweeney.
Leptospirosis can be caught through contact with river or lake water when the water is contaminated by the urine of infected animals, and is a notorious disease amongst watersports athletes.
In reply to Post #235
sad news . i keep having to tell longshanx about putting everything in his mouth
sad news . i keep having to tell longshanx about putting everything in his mouth
Heard that on the news this morning, they were calling it a "waterborn infection" and I immediately thought Weils. If it was definitely Weils then if there is any good that can come out of such tragic circumstances it might just raise awareness, particularly within the medical fraternity who seem to be extremely slow at diagnosing it.
Thoughts are with Andy Holmes' family.
Thoughts are with Andy Holmes' family.
Sad news RIP, and like has been said a reminder to us all of the dangers , if it can kill someone as fit as a athlete then us mere mortals best beware and vigilant .
just makes you think,we all must have been,at sometime in our fishing lives,very close to catching it.
there cant be many people more at risk than us anglers,especially carp angling,when we're on the banks for days at a time.
i wonder why more anglers dont contract it? the last person i can remember was martin ford a couple of years ago....
there cant be many people more at risk than us anglers,especially carp angling,when we're on the banks for days at a time.
i wonder why more anglers dont contract it? the last person i can remember was martin ford a couple of years ago....
In reply to Post #240
Its likely more anglers do catch it, than are ever diagnosed, thats why carrying the card is so important, especially in the UK with so many rats at so many venues. For sure a lot of cases which are presented are diagnosed as different things , the key here is to learn.
Don't leave food uncovered, don't drink lake water, use antiseptic hand gel and don't stick your fingers in your gob.
Make sure all cuts and injuries are covered and antiseptic is used as well, remember this just minimalizes the changes , the disease can still enter the body via the mouth, eyes or nose !!
Its likely more anglers do catch it, than are ever diagnosed, thats why carrying the card is so important, especially in the UK with so many rats at so many venues. For sure a lot of cases which are presented are diagnosed as different things , the key here is to learn.
Don't leave food uncovered, don't drink lake water, use antiseptic hand gel and don't stick your fingers in your gob.
Make sure all cuts and injuries are covered and antiseptic is used as well, remember this just minimalizes the changes , the disease can still enter the body via the mouth, eyes or nose !!
In reply to Post #240
Believe it or not, there is only one lab in the whole of the UK who can do a definitive blood test for WD...How shocking is that
Not shocking at all Ken to be honest.
One ELISA machine could test thousands of people a day if necessary, pretty easily.

Above is an ELISA plate, it has 96 wells from memory. Each well could represent a test sample, although replication, is obviously beneficial. The result are read in a desktop sized reader which takes seconds to do.
As long as the samples get there quickly I dont think theres a problem personally.
Believe it or not, there is only one lab in the whole of the UK who can do a definitive blood test for WD...How shocking is that
Not shocking at all Ken to be honest.
One ELISA machine could test thousands of people a day if necessary, pretty easily.

Above is an ELISA plate, it has 96 wells from memory. Each well could represent a test sample, although replication, is obviously beneficial. The result are read in a desktop sized reader which takes seconds to do.
As long as the samples get there quickly I dont think theres a problem personally.
In reply to Post #242
Just bumping this thread as a reminder...
Keep safe, guys.
Just bumping this thread as a reminder...
Keep safe, guys.
In reply to Post #1158
Ken I'm with you on this one!! The message is getting through slowly judging by the number of hits.
Lets just pray all advice is heeded lives will be saved because of awareness.
Ken I'm with you on this one!! The message is getting through slowly judging by the number of hits.
Lets just pray all advice is heeded lives will be saved because of awareness.
In reply to Post #1159
The message is getting through slowly judging by the number of hits.
I wish that was true...you only have to look at some of the idiotic posts in the Rats and Brollies thread to see that the message is falling on deaf ears.
The message is getting through slowly judging by the number of hits.
I wish that was true...you only have to look at some of the idiotic posts in the Rats and Brollies thread to see that the message is falling on deaf ears.
In reply to Post #1159
DP...Twitchy finger coz I am so angry at the ignorance expressed in some of the posts on here...
DP...Twitchy finger coz I am so angry at the ignorance expressed in some of the posts on here...
Well the message is defo gettin through to me, after reading through this thread ive noticed myself being more concious about it whilst being on the bank, as where before i used to wash stuff in lake water, wash my hands and so on. My tackle bag is now equipted with antibac gel