In reply to Post #168
Antis follow Yeadon. And he's been wrong everytime too.
A bit of application and an open mind and you can pick the truth day by day between the extremes.
Antis follow Yeadon. And he's been wrong everytime too.
A bit of application and an open mind and you can pick the truth day by day between the extremes.
In reply to Post #169
Fair enough
I suppose my reasoning is that I'm more inclined to listen to a reasoned educated projection than 'My mate found this on facebook' ...
Fair enough
I suppose my reasoning is that I'm more inclined to listen to a reasoned educated projection than 'My mate found this on facebook' ...
In reply to Post #170
Exactly, who is right and who is wrong? Their all scientists etc? Open mind then ties up with what your force fed by MSM.......could be right, but also wrong!
Look at Omi like Tony says......South African scientists and doctors are saying one thing yet ours are saying something else......if you can't trust the science then who do you trust??
Exactly, who is right and who is wrong? Their all scientists etc? Open mind then ties up with what your force fed by MSM.......could be right, but also wrong!
Look at Omi like Tony says......South African scientists and doctors are saying one thing yet ours are saying something else......if you can't trust the science then who do you trust??
In reply to Post #171
It is our scientists who are saying it,yet South Africa's scientists are saying different.Who you going to believe in that situation.
It is our scientists who are saying it,yet South Africa's scientists are saying different.Who you going to believe in that situation.
In reply to Post #172
You have to pick a path between them. Stay updated. Also watch an individuals usual narrative. I have no time for people that have absolutes. Making wild predictions that 'its all over ' (June 2020 Yeadon) or half a.million will die (Ferguson)
Though often the press misquotes or.misses huge parts out justnfor clicks.
You have to pick a path between them. Stay updated. Also watch an individuals usual narrative. I have no time for people that have absolutes. Making wild predictions that 'its all over ' (June 2020 Yeadon) or half a.million will die (Ferguson)
Though often the press misquotes or.misses huge parts out justnfor clicks.
All fair enough
But... there are basics
Wearing a mask does help in restriction of transmission of germs from my face
Keeping a distance from others and avoiding rooms full of drunk shouty people also helps
Vaccination is a proven route for the medical profession in public health - just ask everyone who isn't dead of smallpox
I've no need for a scientist or a politician to instruct me on simple things like that. Just like I don't need to see wind tunnel data and crash dummy analytics to know that driving slower and safer in crowded areas and wearing a seat belt are very good for keeping myself and others safer...
And gavin Williamson can still **** off
But... there are basics
Wearing a mask does help in restriction of transmission of germs from my face
Keeping a distance from others and avoiding rooms full of drunk shouty people also helps
Vaccination is a proven route for the medical profession in public health - just ask everyone who isn't dead of smallpox
I've no need for a scientist or a politician to instruct me on simple things like that. Just like I don't need to see wind tunnel data and crash dummy analytics to know that driving slower and safer in crowded areas and wearing a seat belt are very good for keeping myself and others safer...
And gavin Williamson can still **** off
In reply to Post #174
The problem is, the scientists and virologists (the experts) use data to predict what might happen, using mathematical modelling they predict best and worst case scenarios and then different parts of the media decide which outcomes to report on. Guess what, reporting 75000 deaths is easy work for a news channel. Reporting nuanced complicated possible outcomes is not.
This morning a conservative MP touted a million infections within a few weeks, using what he referred to as simple maths. It's an outright lie, modelling future outcomes is complicated as hell. He was using an assumption that nobody in the country has any immunity from prior infection or vaccination. The headline is out, it will never be corrected. He said that because he wants people to go out and get jabbed.
It's like an information war at the moment.
The problem is, the scientists and virologists (the experts) use data to predict what might happen, using mathematical modelling they predict best and worst case scenarios and then different parts of the media decide which outcomes to report on. Guess what, reporting 75000 deaths is easy work for a news channel. Reporting nuanced complicated possible outcomes is not.
This morning a conservative MP touted a million infections within a few weeks, using what he referred to as simple maths. It's an outright lie, modelling future outcomes is complicated as hell. He was using an assumption that nobody in the country has any immunity from prior infection or vaccination. The headline is out, it will never be corrected. He said that because he wants people to go out and get jabbed.
It's like an information war at the moment.
In reply to Post #175
How many people are not wearing masks now,I was out yesterday in a shopping centre and I can honestly say more people were not wearing them than people that were.I had mine on like a good boy
How many people are not wearing masks now,I was out yesterday in a shopping centre and I can honestly say more people were not wearing them than people that were.I had mine on like a good boy
In reply to Post #177
Too many
But it's that mix of 'I know better' / 'I'm sick of being told what to do by hypocrites' / 'nobody else is doing it so why should I?' Etc.
Too many
But it's that mix of 'I know better' / 'I'm sick of being told what to do by hypocrites' / 'nobody else is doing it so why should I?' Etc.
Everyone still alive today?
As you were
Not sure about living with covid. We can't even live with each other
I don't ridicule people who want a vaccine but you can imagine the responses I've had... and my retort
As you were
Not sure about living with covid. We can't even live with each other
I don't ridicule people who want a vaccine but you can imagine the responses I've had... and my retort
In reply to Post #178
The main people I saw not bothering was probably late teenage to mid twenties age group.One woman was challenged by an older woman and her reply was not very nice at all
The main people I saw not bothering was probably late teenage to mid twenties age group.One woman was challenged by an older woman and her reply was not very nice at all
South African doctor on LBC this morning......
"We've been dealing with this Omicron variant for 4 weeks, regardless of vaccination status Omicron only causes mild disease TRUST US"
Yet we're starting to hear about plan C from UK scientists and the Government, Witty etc! Anyone care to question this?
Spot on Vince......
Still alive Jon......
"We've been dealing with this Omicron variant for 4 weeks, regardless of vaccination status Omicron only causes mild disease TRUST US"
Yet we're starting to hear about plan C from UK scientists and the Government, Witty etc! Anyone care to question this?
Spot on Vince......
Still alive Jon......
In reply to Post #181
Thats what they reported weeks ago,it's more contagious but carries far less danger and symptoms are mild to non
Thats what they reported weeks ago,it's more contagious but carries far less danger and symptoms are mild to non
Can't be much left of that 3 weeks now, surely.
Big bucks to pharma with big returns in donations ‘well that's the proper name' to this sleazy corrupt bunch of (unt5.