In reply to Post #141
Surely a body as large as the wildlife Trust wouldn't attempt to mislead the general public with outright lies though?
Surely a body as large as the wildlife Trust wouldn't attempt to mislead the general public with outright lies though?
In reply to Post #138
Officially no, but then again that's the idea, its to get the people who are paid the money to come up with the ways to do it, putting the ball firmly back into their court, its saying you got us into this mess, now you figure out a way to get us out of it. Clearly at the moment the lethal ways will not work, so what harm is there it ask for non lethal ways to control them? I'm sure if MP's sat down with various experts and bodies, they would easily come up with a couple, i think we can all think of a couple ourselves, and that's why people sign it, because we can all think of a way.
Officially no, but then again that's the idea, its to get the people who are paid the money to come up with the ways to do it, putting the ball firmly back into their court, its saying you got us into this mess, now you figure out a way to get us out of it. Clearly at the moment the lethal ways will not work, so what harm is there it ask for non lethal ways to control them? I'm sure if MP's sat down with various experts and bodies, they would easily come up with a couple, i think we can all think of a couple ourselves, and that's why people sign it, because we can all think of a way.
So it's about getting someone else to come up with a solution.... OK......
In reply to Post #143
because we can all think of a way. Name one then?
I can only see 2 non-lethal ways.
1. You keep them in captivity - where? - who's paying for that then?
2. Release them elsewhere - where is elsewhere if they're already bloody everywhere?
because we can all think of a way. Name one then?
I can only see 2 non-lethal ways.
1. You keep them in captivity - where? - who's paying for that then?
2. Release them elsewhere - where is elsewhere if they're already bloody everywhere?
In reply to Post #144
Why not? somebody else gave us the problem
Why not? somebody else gave us the problem
In reply to Post #145
Its the 21st century, im sure there are ways to stop otters from making more otters, without killing them
Its the 21st century, im sure there are ways to stop otters from making more otters, without killing them
In reply to Post #148
Beggars belief! the prospect of even counting how many there are is daunting enough and riddled with logistical problems.
But we should be able to capture them all and sterilise them!
Sheesh!
Beggars belief! the prospect of even counting how many there are is daunting enough and riddled with logistical problems.
But we should be able to capture them all and sterilise them!
Sheesh!
In reply to Post #149
Like I said its not up to us to decide its up to the experts, and the people who know, what's wrong with that?
Like I said its not up to us to decide its up to the experts, and the people who know, what's wrong with that?
In reply to Post #149
The whole petition is clueless ...absolutely clueless...
"We don't know what to do so let's ask someone and we will make ourselves look stupid in the process"
Ive wasted far too much time on this the past few days and it's nothing but pathetic
You lot, don't even know what you've bloody signed it for...tell you what, se d me a signed blanked cheque to me please !,
The whole petition is clueless ...absolutely clueless...
"We don't know what to do so let's ask someone and we will make ourselves look stupid in the process"
Ive wasted far too much time on this the past few days and it's nothing but pathetic
You lot, don't even know what you've bloody signed it for...tell you what, se d me a signed blanked cheque to me please !,
In reply to Post #152
Oh mate...it beggars belief
I'm sitting here thinking...with people's attitude to this sensitive subject, it's no wonder angling is looked down upon
Oh mate...it beggars belief
I'm sitting here thinking...with people's attitude to this sensitive subject, it's no wonder angling is looked down upon
In reply to Post #151
Think what you like, others see it differently, as i said way back, i never expected you to be on board with it, so im not particularly bothered about your view
Think what you like, others see it differently, as i said way back, i never expected you to be on board with it, so im not particularly bothered about your view
In reply to Post #154
That's because you Fail to understand what the hell you are on about
I said before hand
I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT IF IT HAD A CLEAR DIRECTION
It has NO direction at all...and the fact you can't see that worries me..
I couldn't give a dam about pointless things and trying to rally up suppor for what?
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUVE SIGNED
The statement from BS even says they haven't got a clue 😂
Oh hang on,..don't they want to trap and release said otter 20 miles up stream 😳
Don't they want to chop off all the males balls 😳
Do me a favour, come back when you actually understand what the hell is being proposed, cause quite frankly, people like you are comical
That's because you Fail to understand what the hell you are on about
I said before hand
I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT IF IT HAD A CLEAR DIRECTION
It has NO direction at all...and the fact you can't see that worries me..
I couldn't give a dam about pointless things and trying to rally up suppor for what?
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUVE SIGNED
The statement from BS even says they haven't got a clue 😂
Oh hang on,..don't they want to trap and release said otter 20 miles up stream 😳
Don't they want to chop off all the males balls 😳
Do me a favour, come back when you actually understand what the hell is being proposed, cause quite frankly, people like you are comical
In reply to Post #155
There you go again personal attacks, and again i refer back where i said debates like this really show people what they are really like.
Time and time again i've pointed to you in the direction of their facebook page, but declined to go there, then moan on the UKWOT facebook page about being "hounded" when in reality you are the one doing the hounding.
We will never see eye to eye about this issue, mainly because it probably isn't your idea
There you go again personal attacks, and again i refer back where i said debates like this really show people what they are really like.
Time and time again i've pointed to you in the direction of their facebook page, but declined to go there, then moan on the UKWOT facebook page about being "hounded" when in reality you are the one doing the hounding.
We will never see eye to eye about this issue, mainly because it probably isn't your idea
In reply to Post #156
What idea?
There isn't an idea 😂😂😂😂😂
Get a grip fella...explain, understand, lobby correctly in a way that will appeal and make a difference.
You want to release otters 20 miles up stream 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Come on fella...it shows lack of intelligence over this...you NEED a plan, you need direction, you need to get it right...if so, you will get far more support, but all your getting is support for a petition that has no meaning...so explain to me..educate me and I may well have a different opinion and actually sign it..
Help me understand it?
Don't panic, ive got the details ...I want you as someone who has signed it explain to me your understanding..not much to ask?
I'll ask you AGAIN base your responses on nYOUR understanding
HOW
WHERE
What is being done with the trapped otter?
What idea?
There isn't an idea 😂😂😂😂😂
Get a grip fella...explain, understand, lobby correctly in a way that will appeal and make a difference.
You want to release otters 20 miles up stream 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Come on fella...it shows lack of intelligence over this...you NEED a plan, you need direction, you need to get it right...if so, you will get far more support, but all your getting is support for a petition that has no meaning...so explain to me..educate me and I may well have a different opinion and actually sign it..
Help me understand it?
Don't panic, ive got the details ...I want you as someone who has signed it explain to me your understanding..not much to ask?
I'll ask you AGAIN base your responses on nYOUR understanding
HOW
WHERE
What is being done with the trapped otter?
In reply to Post #156
Oh and I apologise if your offend by me calling you stupid...😉
Oh and I apologise if your offend by me calling you stupid...😉