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In line cable connector (35 posts / 1,120 views)
duggs
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Post #1 3 Mar 2021 10:43
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I'm in a right mess this morning doing some worktops, three different sanders/polishers and two routers on the go, connecting to a dust extractor. After swapping tools a few times I end up in a birds nest of cables! Is there a decent connector so I can have one decent flex from the extractor and short leads on the tools? My festool stuff has this already but the routers/sanders are other brands

The router is the heaviest load at 2kw and I need it to lock, a sudden stop on a deep plunge cut with the router would be lethal!

It'll also solve my problem of the makita sanders only having about 4 feet of flex
noj
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Social photographer... Post #2 3 Mar 2021 10:53
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Not what you want to hear mate but the solution is more dust extraction units.
Which means another £500 if you want to safely draw 2kw and actually collect dust.

You also need a cordless sander
Ffs man put your hand in your pocket
duggs
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Post #3 3 Mar 2021 11:08
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But then I'd need 5 extractors andhave 5 hoses in the birds nest too
I have got a cordless Sander with a Bluetooth widget for the extractor but it ain't up to the volume of work really, I'll often have a Sander going constantly for a couple of hours, only stopping to change paper grades
noj
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Social photographer... Post #4 3 Mar 2021 12:08
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Festool sanders and routers then.
Would all be interchangeable at the tool wouldn't it?
duggs
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Post #5 3 Mar 2021 12:52
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Now your talking
I'd have to start a go fund me page for that tho

with the festool stuff you can clip the lead to the hose and quickly swap both between tools,keeps it nice and tidy. I want a connector I can do the same using other brands
I like festool tools and generally find them good value, but I might need this kit 6 days a year, even factoring in the better user experience and the inbuilt insurance it doesn't justify being 3 times the price of a makita equivalent.
If I was fitting or refurbing acrylic tops every other week I'd do it for sure
noj
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Social photographer... Post #6 3 Mar 2021 13:08
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Yeah mate it's a nice system. Been using a small domino and 5” orbit sander rigged up to the midi extractor the same way. Certainly more refined than Henry who's being dragged about by a cordless plunge saw.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #7 3 Mar 2021 14:03
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In reply to Post #5
If these makes use different dust extractor connectors I wonder if someone in the world of 3D printing could make you a coupler?
duggs
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Post #8 3 Mar 2021 14:30
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In reply to Post #7
Plenty of adaptors for the hoses, it's the cables that I need to do something about.

(although, yet again the festool system is just better, actually locking the hose to the tool)
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #9 3 Mar 2021 14:44
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I'm not in your trade so don't fully understand the difficulties but can't you use something like
THIS
OR THIS
duggs
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Post #10 3 Mar 2021 14:48
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The second option could be a goer

Different job now so can't really show the carnage
As said, with festool tools you have one lead you plug into the extractor, which then connects to the tools, so if your using multiple tools in sequence you swap the hose and that one lead between the tools, that cable would normally be clipped to the hose too
IMG-20210303-151213

On the job this morning I was using 7 different power tools in sequence, 5 of them not festool so that's a lot of cables to keep under control, add in a bit of time pressure and it quickly becomes a birds nest under your feet
duggs
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Post #11 3 Mar 2021 18:48
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In reply to Post #9
The second one is close, but I don't see any clamp to hold the cable in the instructions, bit of a concern on a joint that'll get the odd tug

I did just find an adaptor to convert the tools to the festool lead though, £20 each , no earth in it so I'll have to check whether the tools need that. Not sure what size cable is needed for the big router but it looks to thin for 2kw@4m.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #12 3 Mar 2021 19:15
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In reply to Post #11
If they've gone to the trouble of designing a IP68 connector I'd be surprised if there's not a clamp of some sort.
I'm guessing but on the second one there might be a conical part that tightens down when the nut is done up?
The success of that will be down to the diameter of the cable, you might be lucky, might not.

Here's something with the conical part but it's a permanent joint so no good for you but demonstrates that if the diameter of the cable is just right it should clamp down ok otherwise it'll pull out over time
LINK

duggs
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Post #13 3 Mar 2021 19:33
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Yeh your right, I'll probably need the smaller 10amp version to clamp on the smaller cables. I'll grab some and some rubber flex to have a play with
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #14 3 Mar 2021 19:43
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In reply to Post #11
Might be a case of lots of googling.
I found connectors starting with the prefix SP

Cable outer diameter range
SP11: 4-6.5
SP13 I: 4-6.5mm, II: 5-8mm
SP17: 6-10mm
SP21 I: 4.5-7mm, II: 7-12mm
SP29: 13-16mm
Taken from
HERE

Video
Not saying these are 'exactly' what you want, just ideas?


EDIT
ebay?
noj
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Social photographer... Post #15 3 Mar 2021 22:43
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In reply to Post #10
They're expensive but those festool snag free hoses are such a good buy. The serrated ones are magnetised to bloody saw tracks
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