In reply to Post #1000
Well done mate that's a great bit if instruction. Can't fault the process and can vouch that they work in practice.
Well done mate that's a great bit if instruction. Can't fault the process and can vouch that they work in practice.
In reply to Post #1000
hye mate just a quick one and i no that its nothing to do with ledcore but how do you add pics to your posts???
hye mate just a quick one and i no that its nothing to do with ledcore but how do you add pics to your posts???
In reply to Post #1000
well done mate great pics and instruction, i have used leadcore for years and find it great when used properly, a couple of points i have found the gardner leadcore the best by a long shot its much thinner,the lead never pokes through the skin and being thin your end tackle will easily slip off if you should crack off or your main line break!! my other point is some people are still tieing the leadcore to their mainline using a SWIVEL!!!!! THIS SHOULD NEVER BE DONE AS IT TURNS IT INTO A DEATH RIG! should always be tied as you have shown! well done geez.
well done mate great pics and instruction, i have used leadcore for years and find it great when used properly, a couple of points i have found the gardner leadcore the best by a long shot its much thinner,the lead never pokes through the skin and being thin your end tackle will easily slip off if you should crack off or your main line break!! my other point is some people are still tieing the leadcore to their mainline using a SWIVEL!!!!! THIS SHOULD NEVER BE DONE AS IT TURNS IT INTO A DEATH RIG! should always be tied as you have shown! well done geez.
In reply to Post #46
POTENTIAL DEATH RIG
These pictures are very good, however I do disagree with the second method of attachment. The knot that is used is incorrect as the excess/tail end of the knot is pointing in the wrong direction.
In the event of a lost rig/snap up/crack off.
If this was to be used with the ever popular chod rig (or some other rigs) then the bead above the rig may not be able to get over this knot. The excess/tail end of line acts in the same way as a bard does and can cause the bead to get trapped behind it, creating a piece of leadcore with a lead attached at one end and a rig at the other that can not be disgarded by the fish. The chance of this increases with thicker/stiffer line or if weed gets caught around it.
If you are to attach leadcore in this way (via spicing) then the knot used most double back on itself in order for the tail/excess end to be pointing away from the lead and leadcore. If this is done then the tail end will not impeed the movement of the bead over the knot and will allow the fish to free the rig from the leadcore.
POTENTIAL DEATH RIG
These pictures are very good, however I do disagree with the second method of attachment. The knot that is used is incorrect as the excess/tail end of the knot is pointing in the wrong direction.
In the event of a lost rig/snap up/crack off.
If this was to be used with the ever popular chod rig (or some other rigs) then the bead above the rig may not be able to get over this knot. The excess/tail end of line acts in the same way as a bard does and can cause the bead to get trapped behind it, creating a piece of leadcore with a lead attached at one end and a rig at the other that can not be disgarded by the fish. The chance of this increases with thicker/stiffer line or if weed gets caught around it.
If you are to attach leadcore in this way (via spicing) then the knot used most double back on itself in order for the tail/excess end to be pointing away from the lead and leadcore. If this is done then the tail end will not impeed the movement of the bead over the knot and will allow the fish to free the rig from the leadcore.
In reply to Post #1000
nice tutorial.
However I have one question. In the other thread about the Dangers Of Leadcore it says do NOT use a Lead Clip with leadcore as this makes it a death rig, with pictures of a fish with it all wrapped round it!
so can i or can't i use a lead clip with it, i NEVER use a swivel to tie to the mainline and I wouldn't use any sort os bead that would stop the clip coming off??
Thanks.
nice tutorial.
However I have one question. In the other thread about the Dangers Of Leadcore it says do NOT use a Lead Clip with leadcore as this makes it a death rig, with pictures of a fish with it all wrapped round it!
so can i or can't i use a lead clip with it, i NEVER use a swivel to tie to the mainline and I wouldn't use any sort os bead that would stop the clip coming off??
Thanks.
In reply to Post #47
fair point scott and points noted, i dont do it that way myself so im not really an expert at the needle knot, but when i have tried it clips etc do pull off. am i right in thinking that people use a blood type knot???
fair point scott and points noted, i dont do it that way myself so im not really an expert at the needle knot, but when i have tried it clips etc do pull off. am i right in thinking that people use a blood type knot???
In reply to Post #1000
sorry to repeat what others have put up but.....first off I would never use a lead clip with lead core, this means the hooklink is still attached to the leadcore even though the lead is off....that means your carp is sitting there with 3 feet of 45lb breaking strain leadcore attached to its bottom lip!!!! it's why Marsh Prattley at Orchid Lakes banned the use of it, a 41lb Common was found dead in the reeds tangled up in leadcore.
The hooklink has to come off or don't use it!!
I also agree about the knot used, a needle knot is easy enough to tie and takes a couple of minutes to do.
I have also seen the spliced ends come undone under pressure so I normally melt the end and add superglue before pulling it back inside. Might not be the best method but i've never had one give on me.
for line attachment I prefer the palomar knot
otherwise mate a good article
sorry to repeat what others have put up but.....first off I would never use a lead clip with lead core, this means the hooklink is still attached to the leadcore even though the lead is off....that means your carp is sitting there with 3 feet of 45lb breaking strain leadcore attached to its bottom lip!!!! it's why Marsh Prattley at Orchid Lakes banned the use of it, a 41lb Common was found dead in the reeds tangled up in leadcore.
The hooklink has to come off or don't use it!!
I also agree about the knot used, a needle knot is easy enough to tie and takes a couple of minutes to do.
I have also seen the spliced ends come undone under pressure so I normally melt the end and add superglue before pulling it back inside. Might not be the best method but i've never had one give on me.
for line attachment I prefer the palomar knot
otherwise mate a good article
In reply to Post #1000
i think the most safest way to use leadcore is the heli chod rig its the only time i ever use leadcore only ever use tubing
i think the most safest way to use leadcore is the heli chod rig its the only time i ever use leadcore only ever use tubing
In reply to Post #1000
It doesn't get much clearer than that.
It doesn't get much clearer than that.
In reply to Post #46
In reply to people still using a swivel to attatch mainline to the leadcore, perhaps the diagram was ment the other way around, the swivel being used to attatch a hook link? Still not a great way of using leadcore i agree, as the fish is still left with the leadcore and no way of ridding it.
In reply to people still using a swivel to attatch mainline to the leadcore, perhaps the diagram was ment the other way around, the swivel being used to attatch a hook link? Still not a great way of using leadcore i agree, as the fish is still left with the leadcore and no way of ridding it.
In reply to Post #53
The diagram is not included for people to attach their mainline to the swivel that is for lead clips / running lead set ups etc
The diagram is not included for people to attach their mainline to the swivel that is for lead clips / running lead set ups etc
In reply to Post #1000
Well done
that is a very easy to follow article with excellent photos. its by far the best explanation I have seen regarding this particular subject, including those published in some very expensive magazines
Well done
that is a very easy to follow article with excellent photos. its by far the best explanation I have seen regarding this particular subject, including those published in some very expensive magazines
In reply to Post #1000
Gr8 guide thanks alot
Gr8 guide thanks alot
In reply to Post #50
Thanks for that Nick!!
I had a leadcore loop on a chod rig go on me on the cast and the 3 oz lead went straight up in the air and landed 3 feet away from me (in the Dark with me the only angler on the lake at the time). I was looking around for quite some time and then THUD!!
I was bloody furious at the time and for 2 day's later and if the ebayer I bought it from had been within reach??? well you get the picture!!
NEVER EVER trust another anglers loops or knots!! if you do remember what happened to me - or could have done!! if I had moved 3 feet forward!!
Thanks for that Nick!!
I had a leadcore loop on a chod rig go on me on the cast and the 3 oz lead went straight up in the air and landed 3 feet away from me (in the Dark with me the only angler on the lake at the time). I was looking around for quite some time and then THUD!!
I was bloody furious at the time and for 2 day's later and if the ebayer I bought it from had been within reach??? well you get the picture!!
NEVER EVER trust another anglers loops or knots!! if you do remember what happened to me - or could have done!! if I had moved 3 feet forward!!