I'm looking for a spod rod and reel, low cost, that will perform to an acceptable standard. My main use for it will be distance casting spombs, the further it is capable of casting the better.
Would i be correct to say the longer the rod the better, so 12ft or 13ft, and the higher the test curve rating the better, so 4.5lb or 5lb?
I figure the reel plays a very minimal role, though i wonder if the type of line being used can have a serious impact on distance achieved?
So far i have this setup in mind, but would appreciate some feedback on the subject, if this setup looks good enough, or if anyone can recommend better at this sort of price range.
Rod - Fox EOS 12ft 5lb 2pc
Reel - NGT SMR 8000 Spod reel (comes with spool of 18lb nylon).
I can get that setup for around £60 all in. I'd prefer a 3pc rod, but will go with 2pc if neccessary.
All feedback welcome.
Thanks
Would i be correct to say the longer the rod the better, so 12ft or 13ft, and the higher the test curve rating the better, so 4.5lb or 5lb?
I figure the reel plays a very minimal role, though i wonder if the type of line being used can have a serious impact on distance achieved?
So far i have this setup in mind, but would appreciate some feedback on the subject, if this setup looks good enough, or if anyone can recommend better at this sort of price range.
Rod - Fox EOS 12ft 5lb 2pc
Reel - NGT SMR 8000 Spod reel (comes with spool of 18lb nylon).
I can get that setup for around £60 all in. I'd prefer a 3pc rod, but will go with 2pc if neccessary.
All feedback welcome.
Thanks
In reply to Post #1
Total fishing are doing fox TT spod rod and sonik Vader spod reel with braid £85 in there sale section. That's a good buy
Total fishing are doing fox TT spod rod and sonik Vader spod reel with braid £85 in there sale section. That's a good buy
In reply to Post #2
It does look like a good deal that, thanks for posting, though i live abroad and dont really want to import from the UK. Warranty becomes of little use, cost of international delivery, and there is lots of turmoil with shipments from uk to Europe just now due to Brexit.
It does look like a good deal that, thanks for posting, though i live abroad and dont really want to import from the UK. Warranty becomes of little use, cost of international delivery, and there is lots of turmoil with shipments from uk to Europe just now due to Brexit.
In reply to Post #1
Does anyone have any experience of either of these 2 spod rods:
Delphin Apollo Spod 13ft 5lb 3 piece
Prologic C1a 12 4.5lb 3 piece
I want a 3pc, and these are the only 2 budget spod rods i can find that are 3 pc. Has anyone used either of them?
Does anyone have any experience of either of these 2 spod rods:
Delphin Apollo Spod 13ft 5lb 3 piece
Prologic C1a 12 4.5lb 3 piece
I want a 3pc, and these are the only 2 budget spod rods i can find that are 3 pc. Has anyone used either of them?
In reply to Post #1
I've got the Wychwood Riot Utility Rod - its relatively cheap and works really well
I've got the Wychwood Riot Utility Rod - its relatively cheap and works really well
Define "acceptable standard", what does that even mean?
Spod/ Spomb rods:
Like most things, the more you pay, generally the better (lighter, tougher, longer lasting) you get like rings and fittings etc. The Spod/Spomb rod is your most important piece of equipment you have in your armoury, unless you're wanging out singles. With that in-mind, save your money up and get the best as you possibly can. As a rule of thumb, buy cheap, get s_hit.
A 13ft rod will cast further than a 12ft rod.
Spod/ Spomb reels:
If you're putting out big beds of bait at range, say 150yds plus, you're going to put your choice of reel through an awful lot of abuse if used regularly at said kinds of ranges. Whatever you choose, make sure it's not going to blow up and sheer gears and have to buy better to replace broken/ knackred/ pony reel.
I'm sure there will be poster's who'll say 'ive had my el chepo rod/ reel combo and it's lasted years', maybe so, but what they'll fail to tell you is they're not baiting up at long range very often/ if at all and that said combo weighs a metric ton which is exhausting just putting out 5kg @100yds; horrible and will piss you off muchly.
Spod/ Spomb rods:
Like most things, the more you pay, generally the better (lighter, tougher, longer lasting) you get like rings and fittings etc. The Spod/Spomb rod is your most important piece of equipment you have in your armoury, unless you're wanging out singles. With that in-mind, save your money up and get the best as you possibly can. As a rule of thumb, buy cheap, get s_hit.
A 13ft rod will cast further than a 12ft rod.
Spod/ Spomb reels:
If you're putting out big beds of bait at range, say 150yds plus, you're going to put your choice of reel through an awful lot of abuse if used regularly at said kinds of ranges. Whatever you choose, make sure it's not going to blow up and sheer gears and have to buy better to replace broken/ knackred/ pony reel.
I'm sure there will be poster's who'll say 'ive had my el chepo rod/ reel combo and it's lasted years', maybe so, but what they'll fail to tell you is they're not baiting up at long range very often/ if at all and that said combo weighs a metric ton which is exhausting just putting out 5kg @100yds; horrible and will piss you off muchly.
In reply to Post #5
Is it a 2 pc or 3 pc? I have found it online, but cant see that information?
Is it a 2 pc or 3 pc? I have found it online, but cant see that information?
In reply to Post #6
By acceptable standard, i mean something that is not sh*t, it does not have to perform like the high end rods but it will do a good enough job.
I've been fishing for as long as i can walk, all kinds, fly fishing is my main passion. I'm well versed in the saying 'you get what you pay for', in fishing i would be careful with that, most of the top end gear is so over priced it is al.ost criminal to sell at such rediculous margins.
Anyway, i just started carp fishing kast year, over the last 12 months i have amassed an impressive amount of kit, this spod rod and reel is just to get me up and running, if it does me a few seasons i'll be ok with that.
I honestly dont see the complexity in spodding, the rod has a simple job to do, and the reel, c'mon, surely it just has to be robust enough and have a good retrieval rate, nothing else is required from it.
By acceptable standard, i mean something that is not sh*t, it does not have to perform like the high end rods but it will do a good enough job.
I've been fishing for as long as i can walk, all kinds, fly fishing is my main passion. I'm well versed in the saying 'you get what you pay for', in fishing i would be careful with that, most of the top end gear is so over priced it is al.ost criminal to sell at such rediculous margins.
Anyway, i just started carp fishing kast year, over the last 12 months i have amassed an impressive amount of kit, this spod rod and reel is just to get me up and running, if it does me a few seasons i'll be ok with that.
I honestly dont see the complexity in spodding, the rod has a simple job to do, and the reel, c'mon, surely it just has to be robust enough and have a good retrieval rate, nothing else is required from it.
In reply to Post #8
Have a look on Facebook mate. I picked up a TFG spod rod and spod reel with new Nash braid for £40 this week. Both like new too
Have a look on Facebook mate. I picked up a TFG spod rod and spod reel with new Nash braid for £40 this week. Both like new too
In reply to Post #9
Thanks mate though i live abroad. Where i reside i'd rather stick to new gear.
Thanks mate though i live abroad. Where i reside i'd rather stick to new gear.
In reply to Post #8
"I honestly dont see the complexity in spodding, the rod has a simple job"
Absolutely, but as I explained, you get a better and easier tool (read as lighter and less fatiguing) to use/ greater accuracy the more you pay generally speaking, although there are exceptions.
Take the rod that I've got which I've bleated on about here a fair few times ad nausium, the Grey's XSM rod, cost me about £130 and has the worst eyes I've come across in a long time as they love to just fall out ( before I glued them all back) leading to crack offs. I'm not claiming that all cheaper rods are the same build quantity as mine, as I've said, generally the more you spend, the better the tool.
Edited to add:
I did give a somewhat extreme example of where a cheaper rod might be a ballache to use. If you're just going to be wanging out the occasional 1kg of bait in a day and at much shorter ranges, say 80 to 100yds, then I'm sure you won't have to break the bank and get an all singing and dancing rod and reel combo.
"I honestly dont see the complexity in spodding, the rod has a simple job"
Absolutely, but as I explained, you get a better and easier tool (read as lighter and less fatiguing) to use/ greater accuracy the more you pay generally speaking, although there are exceptions.
Take the rod that I've got which I've bleated on about here a fair few times ad nausium, the Grey's XSM rod, cost me about £130 and has the worst eyes I've come across in a long time as they love to just fall out ( before I glued them all back) leading to crack offs. I'm not claiming that all cheaper rods are the same build quantity as mine, as I've said, generally the more you spend, the better the tool.
Edited to add:
I did give a somewhat extreme example of where a cheaper rod might be a ballache to use. If you're just going to be wanging out the occasional 1kg of bait in a day and at much shorter ranges, say 80 to 100yds, then I'm sure you won't have to break the bank and get an all singing and dancing rod and reel combo.
In reply to Post #1
Thanks for all the input folks. I have just ordered the Sonik Vader X 12f 4.5lb 2 piece. Normal RRP is around 70 gbp, i found it on sale at 40 gbp so went for it.
I will buy the Sonik Vader X 8000 RS Spod reel to go with it, which comes preloaded with 30lb braid. The braid is not getting great reviews, but by all accounts the reel is good.
Thanks for all the input folks. I have just ordered the Sonik Vader X 12f 4.5lb 2 piece. Normal RRP is around 70 gbp, i found it on sale at 40 gbp so went for it.
I will buy the Sonik Vader X 8000 RS Spod reel to go with it, which comes preloaded with 30lb braid. The braid is not getting great reviews, but by all accounts the reel is good.
In reply to Post #7
2 piece mate. I also use a wychwood riot reel which everyone except me hates
2 piece mate. I also use a wychwood riot reel which everyone except me hates
In reply to Post #13
As long as you like it thats what counts.
No idea why there are so few 3 pc spod rods availabke, on the budget end anyway, the manufacturers need to get that sorted, there is a nice little gap in the market to be filled out.
As long as you like it thats what counts.
No idea why there are so few 3 pc spod rods availabke, on the budget end anyway, the manufacturers need to get that sorted, there is a nice little gap in the market to be filled out.
In reply to Post #12
Alistair, AFAIK the Sonik Vader X 8000 RS reel is the same as the spod reel but comes with two spools for the same price.
As you will more than likely be binning the crap braid , it may be something to consider.
Alistair, AFAIK the Sonik Vader X 8000 RS reel is the same as the spod reel but comes with two spools for the same price.
As you will more than likely be binning the crap braid , it may be something to consider.
In reply to Post #15
Thanks, i thought they were very similar. The price for both is identicle, so i will probably go with the free braid version and give it a shot, as i dont see what i would need the extra spool for.
Thanks, i thought they were very similar. The price for both is identicle, so i will probably go with the free braid version and give it a shot, as i dont see what i would need the extra spool for.
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Unless of course this reel would be suitable as a normal carp fishing reel? I'm thinking it is going to be too big and bulky for that, but if somone can advise me otherwise, i might take the 2 spool version and put braid on one for spodding, and normal nylon line on the other for normal fishing.
Unless of course this reel would be suitable as a normal carp fishing reel? I'm thinking it is going to be too big and bulky for that, but if somone can advise me otherwise, i might take the 2 spool version and put braid on one for spodding, and normal nylon line on the other for normal fishing.
In reply to Post #12
That's a decent rod, I have one. I don't use it much but have found that medium sized spomb or spods better than large ones for long range though, large ones don't fly as well when casting hard
That's a decent rod, I have one. I don't use it much but have found that medium sized spomb or spods better than large ones for long range though, large ones don't fly as well when casting hard
In reply to Post #18
Funnily enough, I had a medium turn up yesterday going off real life tests from the Mark guy at Shimano.
I filled it up to the brim with crummed bait and it left me thinking, like this little thing? Bods have been banging them out at 200yds plus. Jesus
Funnily enough, I had a medium turn up yesterday going off real life tests from the Mark guy at Shimano.
I filled it up to the brim with crummed bait and it left me thinking, like this little thing? Bods have been banging them out at 200yds plus. Jesus
In reply to Post #19
Yeah they fly really well, it's quite surprising. Although I'd do prefer the dot spod over the spomb ,just because it's easier to load
Yeah they fly really well, it's quite surprising. Although I'd do prefer the dot spod over the spomb ,just because it's easier to load
In reply to Post #12
So the shop called me this morning to inform me the Sonic VaderX Spod Rod was damaged in transit and they could not supply it. Its a bit iffy, nonetheless they offered me the Shimano TX 12f 5lb spod rod at 30% discount as way of an appology, so i have gone for that.
So i am still deciding on the reel. I might still go for the Sonic VaderX 8000 RS spod reel, but i am now also considering the Shimano BeastMaster XB 10000.
Does anyone know if the Shimano BeastMaster XB 10000 would be a good spod reel, and if it might be a better choice than the Sonic? I can get both at the same price.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
So the shop called me this morning to inform me the Sonic VaderX Spod Rod was damaged in transit and they could not supply it. Its a bit iffy, nonetheless they offered me the Shimano TX 12f 5lb spod rod at 30% discount as way of an appology, so i have gone for that.
So i am still deciding on the reel. I might still go for the Sonic VaderX 8000 RS spod reel, but i am now also considering the Shimano BeastMaster XB 10000.
Does anyone know if the Shimano BeastMaster XB 10000 would be a good spod reel, and if it might be a better choice than the Sonic? I can get both at the same price.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I ended up buying the Sonic Vaderx RS8000 reel. Just arrived today, its a beast. By far the heaviest reel I have owned, it must weigh around 1kg. It looks good, but it could possibly get tiring after some repeated casting, given its weight.
I am used to reels showing how much line capacity the spool can take. There is zero indication of what this reel spool capacity is, which is a bit of a bummer. I'm planning to purchase 150m of Daiwa J Braid, now I have to somehow figure out how much nylon backing to put on first, before adding the braid, so the reel is filled out properly. If anyone has any bright ideas how best to do this, do let me know.
I ended up buying the Sonic Vaderx RS8000 reel. Just arrived today, its a beast. By far the heaviest reel I have owned, it must weigh around 1kg. It looks good, but it could possibly get tiring after some repeated casting, given its weight.
I am used to reels showing how much line capacity the spool can take. There is zero indication of what this reel spool capacity is, which is a bit of a bummer. I'm planning to purchase 150m of Daiwa J Braid, now I have to somehow figure out how much nylon backing to put on first, before adding the braid, so the reel is filled out properly. If anyone has any bright ideas how best to do this, do let me know.
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If anyone has any bright ideas how best to do this, do let me know.
It comes with a spare spool.
Wind your braid on first, tie your backing to it then wind until the spool is full.
Put spare spool on then wind it all back on that spool, bingo, the braid is on top.
If anyone has any bright ideas how best to do this, do let me know.
It comes with a spare spool.
Wind your braid on first, tie your backing to it then wind until the spool is full.
Put spare spool on then wind it all back on that spool, bingo, the braid is on top.
In reply to Post #23
Now why did i not think of that! Cheers mate, i'll do just that.
I've heard with braid it is not recommended to completely max out the reel capacity, is that correct?
Can anyone help to recommend best Daiwa J Braid and shock leader configuration? I'm thinking along these lines:
Daiwa J Braid x8: 0.16mm / 150m
Nash Braided Shock Leader 50lb
- attach 6 meters of shock leader to mainline using double grinner knot.
Does that look about right?
Now why did i not think of that! Cheers mate, i'll do just that.
I've heard with braid it is not recommended to completely max out the reel capacity, is that correct?
Can anyone help to recommend best Daiwa J Braid and shock leader configuration? I'm thinking along these lines:
Daiwa J Braid x8: 0.16mm / 150m
Nash Braided Shock Leader 50lb
- attach 6 meters of shock leader to mainline using double grinner knot.
Does that look about right?
In reply to Post #24
What legnth of shock leader is recommended for spodding?
What legnth of shock leader is recommended for spodding?
In reply to Post #25
Drop from the tip to spomb and 4 turns on the spool
Drop from the tip to spomb and 4 turns on the spool
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