Hi, I'm thinking of getting some tapered mainline for distance fishing. Do any of you guys have any experience of using it and is it worth getting?
In reply to Post #1
Have used the fox exocet tapered mainline before. Definitly gained a few yards using it. Not a significant amount though. Never had any snap offs or failures with it so that was a positive. Haven't used any other brand so can't make a comparison.
Have used the fox exocet tapered mainline before. Definitly gained a few yards using it. Not a significant amount though. Never had any snap offs or failures with it so that was a positive. Haven't used any other brand so can't make a comparison.
Thanks, think I'll give it a go. Having no leader knot is definitely a plus.
In reply to Post #3
Definitely by removing the leader knot is one less point of potential failure. Sorry I wasn't able to comment on any of the other brands but that Fox Exocet is the only one I have used. Good luck with it.
Definitely by removing the leader knot is one less point of potential failure. Sorry I wasn't able to comment on any of the other brands but that Fox Exocet is the only one I have used. Good luck with it.
In reply to Post #4
Thanks for the reply mate 👍
Thanks for the reply mate 👍
Fox tapered line is garbage. Avoid it. Utter kack.
In reply to Post #6
I have used exocet,on my syndicate there's a leader ban.
Given the choice I'd use a braided shock leader every time.
A lot of problems come from people not tying knots correctly over filling spools etc.
I have used exocet,on my syndicate there's a leader ban.
Given the choice I'd use a braided shock leader every time.
A lot of problems come from people not tying knots correctly over filling spools etc.
In reply to Post #7
It's literal s-hit-tier line and nothing to do with overfilling. Chaffs to bits and is no where near the stated strength it's supposed.to be.
I'd never use it ever again and advise anyone else not to use it.
It's literal s-hit-tier line and nothing to do with overfilling. Chaffs to bits and is no where near the stated strength it's supposed.to be.
I'd never use it ever again and advise anyone else not to use it.
In reply to Post #8
I was referring to problems using braid not exocet.
No I don't rate exocet either.
I was referring to problems using braid not exocet.
No I don't rate exocet either.
Have the Korda tapered subline on 3 spools for when I need it. It has been fine in use. I use it for safety reasons when using big leads, heavy bags etc where leader bans are in place. Unfortunately for Korda many lakes with leader bans also have 15lb minimum breaking strain rules which means you have to use Fox as they produce a spool where the mainline section is 15lb. Korda max is 12lb (fairly sure, could be wrong). Shame really as tapered lines could solve lot of safety/crack off and cut off problems.
In reply to Post #9
No probs 👍
The Fox stuff has got so much stretch in it, defeats the object when the thick end is like an elastic band
No probs 👍
The Fox stuff has got so much stretch in it, defeats the object when the thick end is like an elastic band
In reply to Post #10
Weird how Korda don't do a 15lb version.
There's Ridgemonkey's RM-Tec Orbit Double Tapered Mono. Don't know much about it and never used it. The dia to breaking strain looks a bit suspect.
Weird how Korda don't do a 15lb version.
There's Ridgemonkey's RM-Tec Orbit Double Tapered Mono. Don't know much about it and never used it. The dia to breaking strain looks a bit suspect.
In reply to Post #12
Kordas 12lb has the same diameter as normal 15lb line. Always go off diameter not what's printed in the label . If you get a 15lb Korda line you'll be using .40mm diameter and you won't be casting very far with that
Kordas 12lb has the same diameter as normal 15lb line. Always go off diameter not what's printed in the label . If you get a 15lb Korda line you'll be using .40mm diameter and you won't be casting very far with that
In reply to Post #13
I find the whole diameter thing a bit of a myth. For casting, obviously you're looking for the smallest diameter and breaking strain. It's all a bit of a minefield. Take Korda Subline vs Syncro XT for instance. If you look at the Tackle Box tests they've done:
Korda Subline 12lb breaks @17.13lb stated dia 0.35mm measured dia 0.36mm
Syncro XT 12lb breaks @15.75lb stated dia 0.33mm measured dia 0.31mm
And just to make the point
Syncro XT 15lb breaks @ 21.75lb stated dia 0.37mm measured dia 0.35mm
Korda Subline 12lb breaks @17.13lb stated dia 0.35mm measured dia 0.36mm
I find the whole diameter thing a bit of a myth. For casting, obviously you're looking for the smallest diameter and breaking strain. It's all a bit of a minefield. Take Korda Subline vs Syncro XT for instance. If you look at the Tackle Box tests they've done:
Korda Subline 12lb breaks @17.13lb stated dia 0.35mm measured dia 0.36mm
Syncro XT 12lb breaks @15.75lb stated dia 0.33mm measured dia 0.31mm
And just to make the point
Syncro XT 15lb breaks @ 21.75lb stated dia 0.37mm measured dia 0.35mm
Korda Subline 12lb breaks @17.13lb stated dia 0.35mm measured dia 0.36mm
In reply to Post #14
They break at that with the knots used, not necessarily all knots.
Those tests are handy for a quick comparison but not to be taken as gospel.
Your examples actually prove the opposite of what you're saying
They break at that with the knots used, not necessarily all knots.
Those tests are handy for a quick comparison but not to be taken as gospel.
Your examples actually prove the opposite of what you're saying
In reply to Post #15
I said it was a bit of a minefield, hence the examples I gave, that is all.
Unless you have a better source that you can provide, it's about as good as there is right now, gospel of not.
It is clear that the Korda 12lb has a greater dia in comparison to 15lb Syncro XT yet the XT has a greater strength and smaller dia.
I said it was a bit of a minefield, hence the examples I gave, that is all.
Unless you have a better source that you can provide, it's about as good as there is right now, gospel of not.
It is clear that the Korda 12lb has a greater dia in comparison to 15lb Syncro XT yet the XT has a greater strength and smaller dia.
In reply to Post #16
You said a myth, not a minefield
Thicker diameter line generally breaks at a higher figure and all BS labelling is generally BS.
The best source of accurate information regarding knots is to tie and test them yourself.
People tie knots differently and have different expectations of materials. It's all well and good stating 15.something and 17.something else... that's only relevant to casting load without a leader because as sure as there's a hole in my arse your rods will NOT exceed 10lb when used conventionally.
A lot of perfectly good products develop bad reputations through inaccurate information that's down to user error, not that I'm implying you're doing that, but first hand experience always wins
Take the 5500 xtd thread, half the people own them and have no issues and the other half have a mate who says they're rubbish... make of that what you will
You said a myth, not a minefield
Thicker diameter line generally breaks at a higher figure and all BS labelling is generally BS.
The best source of accurate information regarding knots is to tie and test them yourself.
People tie knots differently and have different expectations of materials. It's all well and good stating 15.something and 17.something else... that's only relevant to casting load without a leader because as sure as there's a hole in my arse your rods will NOT exceed 10lb when used conventionally.
A lot of perfectly good products develop bad reputations through inaccurate information that's down to user error, not that I'm implying you're doing that, but first hand experience always wins
Take the 5500 xtd thread, half the people own them and have no issues and the other half have a mate who says they're rubbish... make of that what you will
In reply to Post #17
Have a look at the post you were commenting on, I did say minefield as well as myth in that same post. Probably saying myth is sort of misleading, when in fact minefield is a better word to use and never used the word myth.
Logic would suggest that a thicker line is going to break later than a thinner line, though that is always going to be dependent on the material's used by X manufacturer.
Have a look at the post you were commenting on, I did say minefield as well as myth in that same post. Probably saying myth is sort of misleading, when in fact minefield is a better word to use and never used the word myth.
Logic would suggest that a thicker line is going to break later than a thinner line, though that is always going to be dependent on the material's used by X manufacturer.
In reply to Post #13
That's the problem. Many lake rules work against safe power/distance casting. Minimum breaking strains on lines, upper limits on leads, no shock/casting leaders(braid or otherwise). On many small lakes, 15 acres or less it doesn't create a problem. On bigger lakes the rules definitely limit distances, but worse, produce unsafe practices that lead to regular crack offs and lost live rigs as people try to cast to the max with heavy leads and bags using the min bs line allowed. I do actually support braid mainline bans, don't see the need. Too many negatives to gain a few yard. The floating braids in particular are lethal in the environment. Just my opinion.
That's the problem. Many lake rules work against safe power/distance casting. Minimum breaking strains on lines, upper limits on leads, no shock/casting leaders(braid or otherwise). On many small lakes, 15 acres or less it doesn't create a problem. On bigger lakes the rules definitely limit distances, but worse, produce unsafe practices that lead to regular crack offs and lost live rigs as people try to cast to the max with heavy leads and bags using the min bs line allowed. I do actually support braid mainline bans, don't see the need. Too many negatives to gain a few yard. The floating braids in particular are lethal in the environment. Just my opinion.
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