Going to start fishing the trent for barbel this year would i be better off with 12lb or 15lb syncro xt? Cheers
15lb Synchro is massively strong and more suited to huge carp on very snaggy lakes
12lb will be more than fine for any size barbel, anywhere
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Personally I use the syncro in 15lb. The Trent is full of snags, boulders and the like so there's no point messing about. Also casting leads and feeders up to 8oz + demands some serious line. Anyway the barbel don't care what line you use and still fight like nutters!
Personally I use the syncro in 15lb. The Trent is full of snags, boulders and the like so there's no point messing about. Also casting leads and feeders up to 8oz + demands some serious line. Anyway the barbel don't care what line you use and still fight like nutters!
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My mate uses 15lb what with weed beds and heavy flow might need it
My mate uses 15lb what with weed beds and heavy flow might need it
Cheers, i was swaying towards 15lb due to the snags and bug feeders. The 15lb syncro has a thinner diameter as well to most 15lb line as its .37 instead of the usual .40
It will be the first time ever of using 15lb line as in all the years when i carp fished i never went above 12lb.
It will be the first time ever of using 15lb line as in all the years when i carp fished i never went above 12lb.
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12 would be slightly easier to handle in the flow.
12 would be slightly easier to handle in the flow.
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15lb mate, i started on the trent a few years back, some areas are strewn with bolders and there are unseen snags everywhere, your line does take a battering, its a big angry river at times.
15lb mate, i started on the trent a few years back, some areas are strewn with bolders and there are unseen snags everywhere, your line does take a battering, its a big angry river at times.
You are actually looking at two heavy duty carp lines mate
The 10lb is the one you want
It is a classic, proven, hard as nails line and you will have no problem with the 10lb
The actual breaking strain of it is more like 15 and it will be a delight to use for barbel
Yes ive heard its not for the faint hearted. Im used to fishing the yorkshire rivers with streamer weed and over hanging willows so think im in tor an eye opener. Just ordered a spool of 15lb syncro xt. Cheers everyone.
If you are unsure about 10lb, just go for 12
You will have no problems with it, the finesse will be much greater than the 15lb and it will be a perfect allrounder
Trust me the 15 is absolute towrope which is much more suited for HUGE carp than barbel
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I have some new flurocarbon on small reels in 15lb could it be used on Thames for barbel fishing
I have some new flurocarbon on small reels in 15lb could it be used on Thames for barbel fishing
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I'm not a fan of fluoro as I think its gimmicky and unreliable mate
You would be better off with a decent mono IMO
What rods are you using I can suggest a good mono to suit your particular rods mate
I'm not a fan of fluoro as I think its gimmicky and unreliable mate
You would be better off with a decent mono IMO
What rods are you using I can suggest a good mono to suit your particular rods mate
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The rods are fox duo lite 11ft with 2.25 tips on was going to use my 2600 that's got 15lb x line on just to use it up for now new season then replace after
The rods are fox duo lite 11ft with 2.25 tips on was going to use my 2600 that's got 15lb x line on just to use it up for now new season then replace after
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Katran Synapse 18lb 0.33 or 22lb 0.37
Great all round line and perfect for weedy rivers.
Katran Synapse 18lb 0.33 or 22lb 0.37
Great all round line and perfect for weedy rivers.
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I had that in the past
The colour is just beautiful and ''well carpy''
It doesn't fare well in the tacklebox line tests, but that test is unfair as they deliberately use a noddy knot for all the lines ''as if a beginner was using it''
If they tried lots of knots with each line and then published the results, then that would not only be more fair, but also far more useful!
I had that in the past
The colour is just beautiful and ''well carpy''
It doesn't fare well in the tacklebox line tests, but that test is unfair as they deliberately use a noddy knot for all the lines ''as if a beginner was using it''
If they tried lots of knots with each line and then published the results, then that would not only be more fair, but also far more useful!
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I've landed cats over 70lb on the 22lb with a figure of eight knot tied to the leader.
100% confidence in it.
£10 a spool
I've landed cats over 70lb on the 22lb with a figure of eight knot tied to the leader.
100% confidence in it.
£10 a spool
some pretty rubbish advice in this thread clearly people that dont have a clue about Barbel or Tidal Trent
you need a minimum of 15lb for barbel as you want to be hard on them and get them in as fast as possible
Unlike carp a barbel will fight to total exhaustion if allowed to on lighter lines then if you take pictures and weigh it etc and treat it like a carp hold it in the water IT WILL KICK !! and if you release it without resting it ?
90% chance 50 yards downstream it will go belly up and die !!!!!!!
Ive had a double figure barbel that put up a hell of a scrap in flood conditions took a picture weighed and I rested it in my net in the flow looked at my watch it was 15.10 them my mate phoned we chatted as you do
and I said look mate gotta put a fish back speak later I looked at my watch and it was 15.25 I bent down I saw the fish belch out a big bubble of air !! that was after 15mins of resting !!
I now fish for Barbel all the time mostly tidal sometime middle I use mostly 30lb braid with about 25ft of 20lb amnesia and business end is a combi hook link
my spare spools are loaded with Fox Illusion 16lb fluorocarbon line that I also use and is an excellent line
you need a minimum of 15lb for barbel as you want to be hard on them and get them in as fast as possible
Unlike carp a barbel will fight to total exhaustion if allowed to on lighter lines then if you take pictures and weigh it etc and treat it like a carp hold it in the water IT WILL KICK !! and if you release it without resting it ?
90% chance 50 yards downstream it will go belly up and die !!!!!!!
Ive had a double figure barbel that put up a hell of a scrap in flood conditions took a picture weighed and I rested it in my net in the flow looked at my watch it was 15.10 them my mate phoned we chatted as you do
and I said look mate gotta put a fish back speak later I looked at my watch and it was 15.25 I bent down I saw the fish belch out a big bubble of air !! that was after 15mins of resting !!I now fish for Barbel all the time mostly tidal sometime middle I use mostly 30lb braid with about 25ft of 20lb amnesia and business end is a combi hook link
my spare spools are loaded with Fox Illusion 16lb fluorocarbon line that I also use and is an excellent line
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Great advice Gerry.
I give their belly a gentle rub and its amazing to see the air they've gulped in being burped out, they go back so much better.
Great advice Gerry.
I give their belly a gentle rub and its amazing to see the air they've gulped in being burped out, they go back so much better.
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Power pro braid for me
Think its 40lb cant remember
Mono a bit more forgiving though so would be 15lb big game or cm90
Casting big feeders and leads just needs a bit of planning and setting up, all good though
Power pro braid for me
Think its 40lb cant remember
Mono a bit more forgiving though so would be 15lb big game or cm90
Casting big feeders and leads just needs a bit of planning and setting up, all good though
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I totally agree with you Old Geezer. I've been fishing the Tidal Trent now on and off for the last ten years or so. I use 15lb line and 2.75 TC rods. You are doing the barbel no favours at all by fishing with anything less. Being noble and giving it a "sporting chance" is more likely to kill it. Remember also that the river is ridiculously snaggy. Even using robust tackle losing gear is an annoying normality. Why lose even more? It's not good for the environment or your pocket!
On the subject of 15lb line, I use it for all my carp fishing too even if it's not snaggy. I just don't get why people feel they have to be a hero with anything less. If you're worried that the carp is more likely to see your line believe me that if it can see that it will also see 12lb line!
I totally agree with you Old Geezer. I've been fishing the Tidal Trent now on and off for the last ten years or so. I use 15lb line and 2.75 TC rods. You are doing the barbel no favours at all by fishing with anything less. Being noble and giving it a "sporting chance" is more likely to kill it. Remember also that the river is ridiculously snaggy. Even using robust tackle losing gear is an annoying normality. Why lose even more? It's not good for the environment or your pocket!
On the subject of 15lb line, I use it for all my carp fishing too even if it's not snaggy. I just don't get why people feel they have to be a hero with anything less. If you're worried that the carp is more likely to see your line believe me that if it can see that it will also see 12lb line!
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Just remember chaps that there are many who fish the Trent who fish in a more traditional manner than the modern ‘carp style' of tents, 8oz leads and rods pointing at the stars.
All this talk of 30 lb braid is not relevant to everybody.
That being said, let's not split hairs as there is not a lot of difference really between 12 and 15 and I would rather see somebody over gunned than under.
Just remember chaps that there are many who fish the Trent who fish in a more traditional manner than the modern ‘carp style' of tents, 8oz leads and rods pointing at the stars.
All this talk of 30 lb braid is not relevant to everybody.
That being said, let's not split hairs as there is not a lot of difference really between 12 and 15 and I would rather see somebody over gunned than under.
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Same as - always used 12lb Big Games on the River - in fact I don't know anyone who I fish with who does not.
I've had it come back like it's been attacked with a Rasp File, and still holds out.
The stretch of River I fish is full of huge boulders/Rocks, but it's no issue - as after a flood I spend hours re-mapping the swims to find out if anything as moved or something new as turned up in a swim.
My tackle loss is practically zero, odd hook gets damaged.
Same as - always used 12lb Big Games on the River - in fact I don't know anyone who I fish with who does not.
I've had it come back like it's been attacked with a Rasp File, and still holds out.
The stretch of River I fish is full of huge boulders/Rocks, but it's no issue - as after a flood I spend hours re-mapping the swims to find out if anything as moved or something new as turned up in a swim.
My tackle loss is practically zero, odd hook gets damaged.
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Where on the Trent are you going?
The priest house castle donington and barrow bend swarkeston usedto be great.
Where on the Trent are you going?
The priest house castle donington and barrow bend swarkeston usedto be great.
If you want to use 12lb line use a shock leader. Dont forget thicker line puts up more resistance in the flow so more lead needed.
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Same as - 12lb Big Game!
Same as - 12lb Big Game!
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No idea yet mate
No idea yet mate
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I'm sure there was someone on here who was in to his trent barbel and did swear by diawa sensor.
The guy had used them all but sensor was the one, might have been its robustness, cost, availability etc etc.
Been a big user myself but not for the last 20 years though.
I'm sure there was someone on here who was in to his trent barbel and did swear by diawa sensor.
The guy had used them all but sensor was the one, might have been its robustness, cost, availability etc etc.
Been a big user myself but not for the last 20 years though.
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Sensor is good line. Ery easy to use, and bloody cheap...but I would favour big game or something equally as tough for a big river, I always strip back a few yards after a few trips, it does take some knocks on the river.
Sensor is good line. Ery easy to use, and bloody cheap...but I would favour big game or something equally as tough for a big river, I always strip back a few yards after a few trips, it does take some knocks on the river.
15lb GT80+
I use this for 90% of my fishing and it has never let me down.
I use this for 90% of my fishing and it has never let me down.
Its all very well people banging on and on about 15lb line on a river for medium sized fish, but that fact is that modern 15lb premium line is absolute complete and utter cross channel ferry towrope
12lb Synchro is indestructable in normal fishing use
The actual BS of it is about 19lb for goodness sake
12lb is markedly nicer to use than 15, much better casting accuracy and finesse with light leads
Do yourself a favour - trust in materials more and don't feel the need to go ''macho''
I know serious deep sea anglers who use 12lb line - the reason is so they can use more finesse rods - and the other reason is it never blooming breaks
12lb Synchro is indestructable in normal fishing use
The actual BS of it is about 19lb for goodness sake
12lb is markedly nicer to use than 15, much better casting accuracy and finesse with light leads
Do yourself a favour - trust in materials more and don't feel the need to go ''macho''
I know serious deep sea anglers who use 12lb line - the reason is so they can use more finesse rods - and the other reason is it never blooming breaks
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Not sure how you fish but 'Finess' is not a word in my dictionary. I just wang it in and hope for the best
I tent to fish rivers with a heavy lead and never find any tow with 15lb, also the GT80 gives me a bit more confidence should there be a snag or anything that requires a little more grunt.
Not sure how you fish but 'Finess' is not a word in my dictionary. I just wang it in and hope for the best
I tent to fish rivers with a heavy lead and never find any tow with 15lb, also the GT80 gives me a bit more confidence should there be a snag or anything that requires a little more grunt.
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I know where you're coming from, I've fished for barbel on the Trent and Severn for over 40 years and used no more than 10lb in mono. This thread is clearly about fishing for barbel on carp gear. Nothing wrong in that
I know where you're coming from, I've fished for barbel on the Trent and Severn for over 40 years and used no more than 10lb in mono. This thread is clearly about fishing for barbel on carp gear. Nothing wrong in that
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Precisely mate nice one - people can't see the woods for the trees basically
The bloke below our posts is one of them
he doesn't get it
12lb line casts far better than 15
and the flow makes a huge difference between 12 and 15 in either river or sea
some people need to get out more, 12lb modern line is RIDICULOUSLY strong (when I was young and broke I used the same spool of 12lb shimano technium on a rough big carp club lake for three seasons, fishing in terms of MONTHS on the bank worth of nights)
It doesn't break!
These people don't realise that 12lb line is actually 15-18lb in reality, and 15lb is 18-23lb in reality
Precisely mate nice one - people can't see the woods for the trees basically
The bloke below our posts is one of them
he doesn't get it
12lb line casts far better than 15
and the flow makes a huge difference between 12 and 15 in either river or sea
some people need to get out more, 12lb modern line is RIDICULOUSLY strong (when I was young and broke I used the same spool of 12lb shimano technium on a rough big carp club lake for three seasons, fishing in terms of MONTHS on the bank worth of nights)
It doesn't break!
These people don't realise that 12lb line is actually 15-18lb in reality, and 15lb is 18-23lb in reality
In reply to Post #34
depends what part of the Trent
I fish one club stretch of tidal and you often need 6 to 8ozs its as rocky as hell and about 14 ft deep but the barbel are nearly always doubles
ok if Im fishing the middle stretches then 3 to 4 ozs is fine but I still like get them in fast as I dont like killing fish
depends what part of the Trent
I fish one club stretch of tidal and you often need 6 to 8ozs its as rocky as hell and about 14 ft deep but the barbel are nearly always doubles
ok if Im fishing the middle stretches then 3 to 4 ozs is fine but I still like get them in fast as I dont like killing fish
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Your an angler mate, you use what's necessary at the time. Got to say though don't fancy hauling a 10lb barbel in with an 8oz lead and the gear you must have to use in those river conditions.
Your an angler mate, you use what's necessary at the time. Got to say though don't fancy hauling a 10lb barbel in with an 8oz lead and the gear you must have to use in those river conditions.
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