Dont know what they are called, I know Nash did one years ago.
What I am talking about is the pole things that connect like a roach pole that you use in a boat for feel the bottom of the lake.
Who sells them? What are they called? Any links anywhere?
Come OG you must know
What I am talking about is the pole things that connect like a roach pole that you use in a boat for feel the bottom of the lake.
Who sells them? What are they called? Any links anywhere?
Come OG you must know
In reply to Post #1
Nash and Cygnet do them , both pretty expensive for what they are . Carp Spirit do a much cheaper version but not on sale in the UK , Pecheur.com or Athleteshop sell them , but they sell out verry quickly when they get them in.
Nash and Cygnet do them , both pretty expensive for what they are . Carp Spirit do a much cheaper version but not on sale in the UK , Pecheur.com or Athleteshop sell them , but they sell out verry quickly when they get them in.
In reply to Post #2
Thanks, if I knew what to call one I could start searching
Thanks, if I knew what to call one I could start searching
In reply to Post #3
Prodding Stick . Jusst seen Johnson Ross have the Carp Spirit on in stock atm. 30 squid cheaper than the new Cygnet one.
Not worth investing in the dearer ones imo as my last one went over the side when my mate was using it , never to see the light of day again..
Edit : https://johnsonrosstackle.co.uk/gadgets/18814-carp-spirit-prodding-stick.html
Prodding Stick . Jusst seen Johnson Ross have the Carp Spirit on in stock atm. 30 squid cheaper than the new Cygnet one.
Not worth investing in the dearer ones imo as my last one went over the side when my mate was using it , never to see the light of day again..
Edit : https://johnsonrosstackle.co.uk/gadgets/18814-carp-spirit-prodding-stick.html
Drain cleaning rods are a far cheaper way of doing the same job
In reply to Post #5
I thought that too but found they weren't stiff enough for the job , the ones i had were way too bendy. (might have just been my set tho).
I thought that too but found they weren't stiff enough for the job , the ones i had were way too bendy. (might have just been my set tho).
In reply to Post #5
spot on
spot on
Lengths of 20mm plastic conduit with connectors on each end are what you want. It's about £2 per 3m length and male female couplers are around 70p each.
In reply to Post #5
thought of them but they are heavy
thought of them but they are heavy
In reply to Post #8
Will they stay pushed in ?
Just had a look on screwfix and they are almost free, 2 lengths and a connector job done
IF!!!!!!!! They stay together?
Will they stay pushed in ?
Just had a look on screwfix and they are almost free, 2 lengths and a connector job done
IF!!!!!!!! They stay together?
In reply to Post #9
Heavy? We have very different views on what heavy is...
Heavy? We have very different views on what heavy is...
In reply to Post #10
https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-conduit-heavy-gauge-20mm-x-3m-length-black/7980p
https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-female-adaptors-20mm-black-pack-of-2/77225
https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-male-adaptors-20mm-black-pack-of-2/64512
Yes they stay tight. I use a plastic weld compound to attach the adapters to the ends.
I also put a little expanding foam at both ends of each length incase you drop one in.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-conduit-heavy-gauge-20mm-x-3m-length-black/7980p
https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-female-adaptors-20mm-black-pack-of-2/77225
https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-male-adaptors-20mm-black-pack-of-2/64512
Yes they stay tight. I use a plastic weld compound to attach the adapters to the ends.
I also put a little expanding foam at both ends of each length incase you drop one in.
In reply to Post #11
Or we have looked at different types?
Or we have looked at different types?
In reply to Post #12
Found them thanks, dont want to glue them, I could glue a coupler on a 2 metre length then I would want another 2 metre length cut in half with a coupler on giving me 2, 3, or 4 metre pole.
Are they tight enough not glued to stay together?
Dont forget they could go in clay, mud, deep silt etc.
Arent the adapters for connecting boxes not pipe to pipe?
Found them thanks, dont want to glue them, I could glue a coupler on a 2 metre length then I would want another 2 metre length cut in half with a coupler on giving me 2, 3, or 4 metre pole.
Are they tight enough not glued to stay together?
Dont forget they could go in clay, mud, deep silt etc.
Arent the adapters for connecting boxes not pipe to pipe?
In reply to Post #12
Do they not float?
Do they not float?
In reply to Post #14
I didnt mean glue the pipes together buddy. I meant a male coupler to the top of 1 length and a female to the bottom of another. Then you can screw together as required. I have a 2 metre length, 1 metre length and 2x0.5 metre lengths. Once screwed together they are nice and tight. If they should become slightly loose, the thread is a decent length and is fairly a fairly tight thread if you know what I mean.
I didnt mean glue the pipes together buddy. I meant a male coupler to the top of 1 length and a female to the bottom of another. Then you can screw together as required. I have a 2 metre length, 1 metre length and 2x0.5 metre lengths. Once screwed together they are nice and tight. If they should become slightly loose, the thread is a decent length and is fairly a fairly tight thread if you know what I mean.
In reply to Post #15
They are hollow tube so as they slowly fill with water, without foam they slowly sink. I put just a quick squirt of foam in so they will stay afloat if dropped.
They are hollow tube so as they slowly fill with water, without foam they slowly sink. I put just a quick squirt of foam in so they will stay afloat if dropped.
In reply to Post #13
Can't see as any could be called heavy myself, they are designed to be used by hand after all....
Can't see as any could be called heavy myself, they are designed to be used by hand after all....
I have the nash one.
Good points - it does the job
Bad points - it's 4 separate sections 4 feet long each and about an inch wide.
They do not sit inside each other so you need more than one rod tube
They are quite clumbersome when in the boat on your own trying to add -remove sections
They are heavy when full of water and you struggle to move them across the bottom -easier to lift them up and reposition each time
I had two sections stuck together and took two of us pulling with all our strength to get apart- thought they would break we used that much force
They are like a roach pole and not really solid. If you accidentally stood on one it would break
Saying all of that they are better than the cygnet one or plumbers drain kit
I have not seen the carp force one but it looks good
Good points - it does the job
Bad points - it's 4 separate sections 4 feet long each and about an inch wide.
They do not sit inside each other so you need more than one rod tube
They are quite clumbersome when in the boat on your own trying to add -remove sections
They are heavy when full of water and you struggle to move them across the bottom -easier to lift them up and reposition each time
I had two sections stuck together and took two of us pulling with all our strength to get apart- thought they would break we used that much force
They are like a roach pole and not really solid. If you accidentally stood on one it would break
Saying all of that they are better than the cygnet one or plumbers drain kit
I have not seen the carp force one but it looks good
In reply to Post #16
Going screwfix today, 2 x 2 metre lenghts 20mm conduit, 2 x male and 2 x female adaptors, less than £3.50
1 will be 2 metres then the others 125 cms and 75 cms.
Have you put any weight in the section that will be the bottom one?
I also thought about screwing them together then drilling a hole through and putting a stainless or plastic bolt through to hold them together or would that not be necessary.
Watch his space
Going screwfix today, 2 x 2 metre lenghts 20mm conduit, 2 x male and 2 x female adaptors, less than £3.50
1 will be 2 metres then the others 125 cms and 75 cms.
Have you put any weight in the section that will be the bottom one?
I also thought about screwing them together then drilling a hole through and putting a stainless or plastic bolt through to hold them together or would that not be necessary.
Watch his space
In reply to Post #12
Top man, looks like that could make a decent baiting pole. You think it would be up to the job?
If I filled each with a little expanding foam would also aid buoyancy I suppose.
Might have to opt for more 2m lengths rather than lesser 3m lengths for carrying them up and down the canal as 3m may be a bit cumbersome.
Top man, looks like that could make a decent baiting pole. You think it would be up to the job?
If I filled each with a little expanding foam would also aid buoyancy I suppose.
Might have to opt for more 2m lengths rather than lesser 3m lengths for carrying them up and down the canal as 3m may be a bit cumbersome.
In reply to Post #16
Sorted
Done the 3 lengths with adapters glued on, Just need some pipe insulation that I can slide up and down in case I drop it.
All for about £3.40
Sorted
Done the 3 lengths with adapters glued on, Just need some pipe insulation that I can slide up and down in case I drop it.
All for about £3.40
In reply to Post #23
If you wanna get real fancy glue a 2p to the bottom of the stick to increase surface area and get better feedback up the pole. Also stops the hollow tube penetrating stodgy silt too deeply 😊
If you wanna get real fancy glue a 2p to the bottom of the stick to increase surface area and get better feedback up the pole. Also stops the hollow tube penetrating stodgy silt too deeply 😊
In reply to Post #24
Wouldnt blocking the end stop it filling with water and make it harder to use?
Thinking about drilling a few holes in the 2 metre length to allow the water to run out when the end is blocked, this will be the bottom piece most of the time when I use it.
Wouldnt blocking the end stop it filling with water and make it harder to use?
Thinking about drilling a few holes in the 2 metre length to allow the water to run out when the end is blocked, this will be the bottom piece most of the time when I use it.
In reply to Post #25
If you want to put metal on the bottom you could just glue a metal washer & the water can still go up the conduit
If you want to put metal on the bottom you could just glue a metal washer & the water can still go up the conduit
In reply to Post #25
Broke my nash one so wondered how you found the conduit in practice. Does it work OK? did you need to drill holes?
Broke my nash one so wondered how you found the conduit in practice. Does it work OK? did you need to drill holes?
In reply to Post #25
I had the Nash one.
Drill holes in the bottom section - this will allow it to fill with water and make it easier to use
If you don't have holes it will just keep trying to float
The Nash one was ok but it was hard work. You couldn't edge it along the bottom you had to keep lifting and lowering- in 15 feet of water it was hard work and slow
Found it much easier to convert a butt section and use a heavy lead - see Kevin Ellis at rainbow -
It was easier to use and gave better results -
I had the Nash one.
Drill holes in the bottom section - this will allow it to fill with water and make it easier to use
If you don't have holes it will just keep trying to float
The Nash one was ok but it was hard work. You couldn't edge it along the bottom you had to keep lifting and lowering- in 15 feet of water it was hard work and slow
Found it much easier to convert a butt section and use a heavy lead - see Kevin Ellis at rainbow -
It was easier to use and gave better results -
In reply to Post #28
Tackle box sell a donking rod set up as per Kevin Ellis vids
Tackle box sell a donking rod set up as per Kevin Ellis vids
In reply to Post #28
I use a donking set up, but nothing fancy, just a old rod I blew up spombing, the butt section survived so I just use and old reel and a few meters of braid job done, If you want to get really fancy put an 8Oz sea lead on with prongs to pick up weed and measure the length for setting he heli bead
I use a donking set up, but nothing fancy, just a old rod I blew up spombing, the butt section survived so I just use and old reel and a few meters of braid job done, If you want to get really fancy put an 8Oz sea lead on with prongs to pick up weed and measure the length for setting he heli bead
Nash is by far the best I have used at a half reasonable price for what it is, I always put an old solar net float over the handle section and slip it up to the orange handle then if it rolled off the boat it would float never lost one, the ones that screw together like the cygnet ones are like a floppy cock plus the screw joints give out in no time at all, the first time my mate come with me he destroyed his cygnet one in a few days at Rainbow, the Nash stick as well as having holes at the base has a single hole at the top, to allow water in the air has to escape making the pole easier to use.
TBH it all depends on the depth of water your fishing in anything past 13/14 feet and they all become awkward to use generally i'm looking for spots up to and around this depth so don't use more than three sections really past that depth and its out with a donkin rod
There is a company at Zwolle show every year but for the life of me I cannot think of their name, they make an alloy one which is the best I've seen, it will last a lifetime it also has interchangeable tools that can fit to it, my mate bought one but was over 100 quid but then if you use it a lot a good investment in my opinion comes with various attachments.
TBH it all depends on the depth of water your fishing in anything past 13/14 feet and they all become awkward to use generally i'm looking for spots up to and around this depth so don't use more than three sections really past that depth and its out with a donkin rod
There is a company at Zwolle show every year but for the life of me I cannot think of their name, they make an alloy one which is the best I've seen, it will last a lifetime it also has interchangeable tools that can fit to it, my mate bought one but was over 100 quid but then if you use it a lot a good investment in my opinion comes with various attachments.
My cygnet one fell to bits, contacted them and the clown asked me to send it back to them which was a bit difficult as half of it was in 10ft of water.
SPOTSTICK I remembered what they were called last night useful bit of kit, my mate went for the 3 poles, tripod adapter, saw blade, large hook and rake.
In reply to Post #33
That looks like a brilliant bit of kit!!
That looks like a brilliant bit of kit!!
In reply to Post #34
well made as well will last a longtime, not exactly cheap with all the various attachments but nice that you can pick and chose what best suits or can add at will.
well made as well will last a longtime, not exactly cheap with all the various attachments but nice that you can pick and chose what best suits or can add at will.
In reply to Post #1
For boat work use a lump hammer wrapped in wire wool on strong paracord, this will give you an indication on what is on the lakebed. Use this with canes you can buy in gardening centres (different lengths)- once you find your spot, stick in the cane. Dab the top of the cane in white paint.
For boat work use a lump hammer wrapped in wire wool on strong paracord, this will give you an indication on what is on the lakebed. Use this with canes you can buy in gardening centres (different lengths)- once you find your spot, stick in the cane. Dab the top of the cane in white paint.
In reply to Post #31
Went for the Nash one after reading this topic, but it has one very disappointing feature: the connections do not sit very tight. You click the poles into one another with those push-and-click type of connectors that are also on the legs of your old bedchair. I thought these would be made to fit, but the opening is actually 1 centimeter long, while the connector is only 0.5. This means that when you actually go prodding, you will first feel the separate components slide into one another, making you loose touch with the lakebed. In combination with it being a tad too "bendy" to my liking and not having any of the features a half-decent pole marker has, I'd say it is far from the "essential" piece of kit they sell it for at around 60 quid.
Went for the Nash one after reading this topic, but it has one very disappointing feature: the connections do not sit very tight. You click the poles into one another with those push-and-click type of connectors that are also on the legs of your old bedchair. I thought these would be made to fit, but the opening is actually 1 centimeter long, while the connector is only 0.5. This means that when you actually go prodding, you will first feel the separate components slide into one another, making you loose touch with the lakebed. In combination with it being a tad too "bendy" to my liking and not having any of the features a half-decent pole marker has, I'd say it is far from the "essential" piece of kit they sell it for at around 60 quid.
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