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vossy1

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#20 19 May 2024 at 8.40pm

There's a tie off tomorrow night, 3 way, can't believe how few watch live. T&T have their takes on classics, C on the other hand is the wild card. Even the Mrs enjoys these 😃 often culminating in a wth is that 🤣

Blonde_Tim

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#19 19 May 2024 at 5.50pm

I grew up in Hants and have fly fished occasionally all my life. Have never really got into Stillwater trout but try and treat myself to a day on a chalk stream once a year which I really love.

The one other facet of fly fishing is tropical sal****er�. Now that is something I would (probably) give up carpfishing for if it were as accessible! I�d put some photos up but they�re on my phone rather than links I can share.

On Orvis - I think their rods are really good. I have one Clearwater (#10) and two recons (#8 ) and think they are all fantastic at each price point.

framey

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#18 16 May 2024 at 3.57pm

In reply to Post #16
I bought daiwa breathable waist waders with separates.
Good things but I think 2 sizes up would mean my feet don�t hurt after a days wearing

vossy1

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#17 16 May 2024 at 10.54am

In reply to Post #15
With me not just using them for fishing they would not be practical, I doubt they could take the punishment they would get put through.
I'm with you. TBH, I was looking at it from a POV of using them in my Carp and river fishing, guess I'll have to see. I'm not sure those more expensive pairs will like kneeling on gravel banks but I guess they must be designed to. There was a thread on here a while back about waders for fly somewhere iirc.

@Rob I struggled with the waders I used last week (instructor supplied) not due to sweating in last weeks moderate heat but due to the water pressure squeezing the life out of my feet to the point of them being numb after a fairly short time.

I'm thinking a separate boot/stocking foot wader but luckily the shop at the res will let you try before you buy as mentioned, they aren't the cheapest things in the world.

Interesting, never even thought about that, thank you. I'm a wide fit so very sceptical about buying before trying. I was in conversation with Rich @ Ollyskins about their waders just before xmas. I'd set my mind on a 'off the shelf' pair but know they do individual fit if req. Looks like it might be 2 pairs, or 3

964rh

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#16 16 May 2024 at 10.25am

In reply to Post #14
I struggled with the waders I used last week (instructor supplied) not due to sweating in last weeks moderate heat but due to the water pressure squeezing the life out of my feet to the point of them being numb after a fairly short time.

I'm thinking a separate boot/stocking foot wader but luckily the shop at the res will let you try before you buy as mentioned, they aren't the cheapest things in the world.

Your fishing does sound ideal Keith, around me most of the trout fishing in reservoir based but I'm hoping to be able to get some river fishing in a some point as watching Whitehouse and Mortimer stand knee deep in a chalk stream/river is what got me looking at this style of fishing as a gap filler when I can't spend days/nights on the bank.

Defiant.one

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#15 16 May 2024 at 10.19am

In reply to Post #14
You have it all on your door step as well JP, all the West Pennines is riddled with Brooks and small Rivers, most not fished - it's only a case of asking the landowner.

I know a few who wear the Simms, Orvis, Greys breathable's, to be honest I've never asked if they actually work

With me not just using them for fishing they would not be practical, I doubt they could take the punishment they would get put through.

vossy1

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#14 16 May 2024 at 10.05am

In reply to Post #13
I got a #5 Clearwater, an absolute joy to use on the types of wild untouched rivers/brooks I fish.
I think that all but seals it

Sounds like you've got a idyl to fish there Keith

Have you tried any of the so called breathable waders Keith, like the expensive ones purporting to stop sweating by breathability? They seem to be very popular if not pricey!

Defiant.one

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#13 16 May 2024 at 9.44am

In reply to Post #12
I got a #5 Clearwater, an absolute joy to use on the types of wild untouched rivers/brooks I fish.

It's crazy as I'm surrounded with large Reservoirs with most of them run as Trout fisheries, but I've no interest in them what so ever, it' fishing for Wild Brownies that appeals to me. It's constantly changing as well, what you learned prior the winter floods has now gone, and you have to start again- new deep grooves in gravel runs, banking's now undercut, fallen Tree's ripping sections of Banking's out and making new deep pools, constantly having to think about everything all the time.

Your right about waders in summer, even in the very cold flowing water you sweat like hell - I just fish an area for a bit then have a break, go and weed kill all the invasive species in that area (We all do it, as it's all SSSI - the site, banking's, ancient woods, even the River bed has SSSI status) and repeat as I move up-stream, so it's not that bad.

Reels only carry the line for you JP, think mines a Snowbee cassette type (As you have got) which is great as you have multiple options.

I say get out there JP, take advantage of hardly needing anything with you, 2-3 hours in an evening or early morning is no issue.
When ever I call at a Engineering Company a mate has sometimes to pick parts up at dinner time, it would be criminal not to throw a rope over the side of the bridge adjacent to their Car park, and climb down and spend a hour fluff chucking in the River below

vossy1

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#12 16 May 2024 at 7.30am

In reply to Post #8
What weight Clearwater did you go for Keith, I'm wondering if there's a sweet spot in the range, so to speak. There's a great review online, a blind fold test, the CW was holding it's own with rods 4 times the price. The 9'#5 seems to be a great choice for anything over close (20') distances by the looks of it.

@964rh Waders, to be quite honest the choice is mind boggling and so are some of the prices. I think there's some cross over in colder weather re Carp type waders, maybe also for short sessions, but I can't imagine using them in warm conditions, be more water in them than out.

Flies, I quite fancy tying my own, I can see it as something I'd do when I don't fancy going out. I've bought a few of the pre prepped packs, seems like a good start to me. I also bought a few of the selection packs from Garry Evans, they sometimes do offers like 6 cards for �30. So land based fishing, tippets, leaders and associated dressings and I'm ready really. I like the fly tie offs as it shows you there's no 'right or wrong' which Ithink is quite important for a beginner as it's quite easy to get lost thinking you must have this or that and must match the hatch.

I was lucky enough to drop on a Airflow Switch reel loaded with unused top lines for good money so that was half the battle won, crikey some of those lines are expensive. Mike at Barrio seems well regarded and love or hate, Maxcatch too!

Yes, seen that one Keith. I like to take myself away with the far reach episodes, there's a big world out there, some of the scenery.

framey

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#11 15 May 2024 at 7.33pm

In reply to Post #10
I used to teach the newbies at the Herts FDG but I think it was because I was left handed so it made it easier for them to copy lol.
Did that for a couple of years then got disgruntled with the main guild it�s self. they did go through a rocky patch so left as couldn�t belong to a branch and not the main.

Defiant.one

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#10 15 May 2024 at 7.26pm

In reply to Post #9
Flies are the only thing I don�t have at the minute but planning on a day out to Rutland water next week so will ask at the tackle shop there, have no intention/time to try and tie my own, my rigs are bad enough

I'm totally with you on that one

I've mates who and tie any pattern at will, not for me - I've engineer's hands, I'll leave it to the experts.

Go have a look at https://www.troutflies.co.uk/

964rh

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#9 15 May 2024 at 7.19pm

In reply to Post #7
In the same position with waders, have a pair I�ve used carp fishing but I wouldn�t want to stand up in them all day so looking around at what to get now

My wife bought me as a surprise a nice rod, reel, net and waistcoat for my birthday, just a Maxcatch setup but comes highly recommended from a few Fly Forum

Flies are the only thing I don�t have at the minute but planning on a day out to Rutland water next week so will ask at the tackle shop there, have no intention/time to try and tie my own, my rigs are bad enough

Defiant.one

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#8 15 May 2024 at 7.14pm

In reply to Post #7
My only regret in over 55 years of fishing JP is I did not take up Fluff Chucking a lot sooner

You will notice the difference between a cheap Rod and a more expensive Fly Rod, Orvis Clearwater - I have not got a clue how they can make such an excellent Rod for the price, I have one in my bag all the time.

Sometime I take a 1950's era 8ft 6" Edgar Sealy Split Cane "Octofly" at a guess around #4, you soon appreciate how good modern Rods are and oh so easy to use in comparison.

Waders: I only fish for wild Brown Trout in the many Brooks and small Rivers that surround me, I used all types of waders - the wall in the beat cabin is full of them, but with all the many Rocks, Boulders, underwater rock features I've found thick PVC chest waders seem to last Snowbee Granite I'm using.

~ Have you seen the Orvis episode were Tom is at that restaurant and looks under the high decking over the small river, and see's a pod of Carp, legs it to his Car crosses a Bridge to the other Bank about 8ft up from the water, casts a fly over the top of the railings down to the river under the decking at the opposite bank - go watch it JP

vossy1

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#7 15 May 2024 at 6.41pm

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated as always

Keith, I remember you saying to me about some must have flies and don't get trapped into collecting them ( can think of worse hobbies mind :-))

I was in the fortunate position to have a avid fly fishing neighbour, in his 80s quite known in Prince Albert. I had a agreement with him that when I'd recovered from my chemo he'd take me out and teach me. Unfortunately before I did he passed away in Nov :-(....all that knowledge gone.

I still need a few more things. I bought a cheap rod (but good reviews for budget but I keep thinking about A Orvis Clearwater 9' #5 or Hardy NSX SR 8' #3, both very well regarded.
I bought a good rod for Pike too, that'll be fun!

As Keith says the Orvis vids are great, Tom is a star, the fly tie offs are funny and well worth a watch. I like his advice on small stream rods, goes against the grain arguing 9' makes it easier to keep fish off rocks in small streams, casting ability being less important.

Waders are a bug bear of mine, what to get.

Edit, Fulling Mill do a great catalogue to your door free

Defiant.one

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#6 15 May 2024 at 6.20pm

In reply to Post #5
If you�re thinking of going for carp on the fly it�s worth learning roll casting in your lesson too because bank side foliage will foul back casts in many swims

Otter Fences are my ultimate annoyance, by chance - perfectly positioned to rule out over-head casts.


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