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Not seen a single set of Kaizen greens for sale second hand ! Not even a single set on eBay for sale.
I thought they looked and felt good for £100 a rod .
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In reply to Post #64
My post (#2) was a statement, I didn't ask for a reply...
And I wasn't the one who mentioned returning them to the shop, that was another poster if you check back.....I am pretty much OK on retail law thanks. 
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In reply to Post #63
LOL , your the one who mentioned you'd seen them for sale , looking for replies !
You didn't seem to know that you can't just return items because you changed your mind (unless mail order)
Not argumentative just answering your posts -that's what forums are about .
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In reply to Post #62
Why so defensive/argumentative? Wierd 
I couldn't really care less to be honest, I was just saying that I had seen a few sets up for sale, brand new with tags. I haven't claimed the Kaizen Greens are crap or anything else....
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In reply to Post #60
read my post 53 !
who knows why their for sale new with tags , could be smaller dealers with no web present ,competition wins ,pre orders but changed their mind .
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In reply to Post #59
Then you would expect them to state so in the listing, afterall, if you are trying to sell something you don't want you would be keen to convince the buyer you weren't selling because they were a load of tat....
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In reply to Post #58
I think they do....especially if via mail order, (distance selling regs).....
Surely if anyone was buying from a shop they would make certain they were fully happy before going to the checkout......
TFT's returns are quite black and white;
To be entitled to a full refund or exchange, we must have received the returned item in unused condition in the original packaging within 30 days of you taking delivery.
I purchased a £2K BaitBoat a couple of years ago from TFT, decided it was too big and asked them if I could return it. They refunded without any issue whatsoever....
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In reply to Post #56
Sound like competition wins
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In reply to Post #56
If they have purchased from a shop and changed their mind then the shop doesn't have to accept the return ,hence why they could be for sale privately.
(simple consumer law)
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In reply to Post #53
Sets I have seen are "brand new with tags"....
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In reply to Post #54
Yes i have changed guides and reel seats on a set for a well known angler those guides are cheap bendy rubbish .
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Not the greens but sure i’ve seen on John Hennessy web page that he’s done custom kaizens for both Damien Clarke and Tom Dove. If they don’t use the factory built rods wheat does it tell you about the components being used and aren’t they the same rings etc on the greens, its just the blank that’s different.
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In reply to Post #4
Maybe they used them ,can't just return an for a refund because you decide you changed your mind (unless purchased online/mail order)
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In reply to Post #42
On what basis could you return them and want your money back? You don’t like them? Not a valid reason to return something unless you can prove they aren’t fit for purpose, which is very subjective.
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In reply to Post #50
My mate who uses TX2's had a cast with the greens and said the same. Although I guess it depends what you want them for as the TX2 are a little bit pokey.
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