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Tim-bowne
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   Old Thread  #52 10 Jan 2024 at 1.30am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #51
Out of interest, which method do you use to load your spools, off the side of the spool or the upright pencil-type one?
Rarebit
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   Old Thread  #51 10 Jan 2024 at 0.28am    Login    Register
When using my boat I used to flick my bail arm and control my line with my hand but this caused massive line twist. Over short distances let my reel reverse now and get much less twist..although I'm a lefty so it's quite difficult to control it sometimes!

..the roller/rotor has to go around the reel to stop the twist.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #50 9 Jan 2024 at 5.13pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #49
I disagree
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #49 9 Jan 2024 at 1.10pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #45
Spool oscillation is just for line lay. It has nothing to do with line twist.
Tim-bowne
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   Old Thread  #48 9 Jan 2024 at 12.16pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #47
Yes I have but I’m just to trying to understand why.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #47 9 Jan 2024 at 7.00am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #46
If you've ever done it, or seen it done you'd know it doesn't remain to be seen, it undoubtedly adds a huge amount of twist!
Tim-bowne
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   Old Thread  #46 9 Jan 2024 at 1.33am    Login    Register
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You may be right but the spool is oscillating using the clutch method. Whether this adds twist remains to be seen.

Edit: you are right about the spool not oscillating, I was getting confused what oscillating meant

I wonder if there’s a way to do an experiment using a thick clear sea fishing mono, permanent marker pen the line on the spool so that one side of the line has a black line on then load using one of the methods discussed & see how the line appears? The twist should be easily noticeable I would’ve thought.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #45 8 Jan 2024 at 11.42pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #43
Sounds reasonable, apart from the last paragraph. By using the clutch to bait boat out rigs you are adding far more twist than you'd of loaded imo, due to the spool not oscillating while the line is coming off
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #44 8 Jan 2024 at 10.09pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #41
I have a few spools to do but no time atm. Will report back eventually.
Tim-bowne
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   Old Thread  #43 8 Jan 2024 at 3.55pm    Login    Register
I’ve been trying to think about this logically & I think by loading line the ESP video way, the reel is adding one full twist of the line per full rotation of the reel’s bail arm.

I think when you then cast using an open bail arm this twist is automatically removed as the coils are free to travel off the side of your reel’s spool.

I think by loading the line on using the side spool method, the reel is loaded with (near) zero twist but then when you cast, the line coming naturally off the side of your reel’s spool actually adds one revolution of twist per coil of line on your reel.

If my thinking is correct (up for debate), then the side loading method would suit those who use the clutch to baitboat out rigs as this way the line is removed with identical twist to which it was loaded - if that makes sense.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #42 7 Jan 2024 at 8.39pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #41
I agree, I get no twist issue doing it this way, but used to by using the method in those videos. And that's using the gr60 which is shown in them
Tinhead
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Tinhead
   Old Thread  #41 7 Jan 2024 at 8.30pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #37
I'm not convinced. The theory sounds good but my line behaves much better with the method advocated in posts 19 and 34.

It will be interesting to see how you get on when switching to the over the side of the spool.
Please let us know how you get on
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #40 7 Jan 2024 at 7.48pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #36
My line has to come off the side of the spool as it's too big to hold with a pencil

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Clobersauraus
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Clobersauraus
   Old Thread  #39 7 Jan 2024 at 7.12pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
What he said. Every few months if needed
AndyClark
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AndyClark
   Old Thread  #38 7 Jan 2024 at 6.41pm    Login    Register
I just walk my lines out on a field ,takes all twist out 100%
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