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In reply to Post #40
Thanks mate
R.I.P condolences to his family and friends
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There are TWO go fund links below
Tributes have been flooding in for much-loved local fisherman and father-of-3, Stephen Kitcher, who has tragically died in a suspected carbon monoxide poisoning incident on the Isle of Wight.
The 47-year-old was enjoying an evening of night fishing at his syndicate lake – understood to be in the Arreton area – when the incident occurred earlier this month.
It’s thought that Steve was attempting to keep warm in his tent by using a briquette heated stove (COBB) when he fell asleep. It is suspected he then became overcome by the fumes and succumbed to carbon monoxide poisoning.
His body was found the next morning when he failed to return home.
A fundraiser has now been set up by Advanced Hookbaits to raise funds for Steve’s wife, Michelle, and the children, to help cover the costs of the funeral. More than £2,800 has been raised to date on the GoFundMe page –LINKY POO
 
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Another GoFundMe set up by Claire Turner has raised in excess of £3,800 – LINKY POO
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In reply to Post #31
Already happening
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RIP Stephen...
I mightve posted this before,so..not long ago ,family on holiday down Newquay way ,in a tent ..got cold ,brought in a lit BBQ,it didn't end well
I'm not a fan of those disposable BBQ,nothing wrong with them per se,only those who leave them on the beach ,still hot n smouldering, covered by sand ..little Johnny on holiday cones a skipping across the beach and steps on it..seen a pic of a young boy with awful severed achilies..
Feel for Stephens family ,
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In reply to Post #34
Link please?
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In reply to Post #34
got a link ?
Thanks
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In reply to Post #31
That actually happened where I live (Plymouth) someone in an expensive apartment bloke set fire to there front room by using a disposable bbq inside
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just a quick heads up... there is a gofundme set up for his funeral. even the smallest of donations would go a long way.
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In reply to Post #32
Ive seen some of these so called campers who go out in extreme weather storms,snow and loads of rain and they zipp doors down and fire a stove up in their little tent while weather rages around them,not only a danger of carbon monoxide but the tents are rattling around surely if one gas stove goes over the material inside would go up in flames.
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In reply to Post #31
I've seen lots of anglers do this over the years and know doubt anglers will do this again
Hopefully anglers will take notice of the dangers of theses actions
But now it's all about Stephen's family and friends
Rip Stephen
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In reply to Post #30
Given the heating or eating situation many people find themselves in, it's only a matter of time before some idiot fires up a Barbie in their living room. With inevitable results.
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In reply to Post #29
Saw a post yesterday where this chaps friend confirmed it wasn't a heater, he was cooking in his bivvy using a charcoal powered Cobb with the door zipped up.
Madness.
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R.I.P condolences to his family and friends
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A real tragedy, my thoughts are with Stephen’s family and friends.
Agree, this thread is probably not the space to discuss the rights or wrongs of heating a bivvy. Plenty of other threads for that.
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Wonder if any of these companies have in their description advertised them as bivvy heaters.
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RIP Stephen Kitcher
so sad a man in his prime with a wife and kids condolences to his family
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very sad news .... and as someone who lost a friend in the same way in the 1980s .... banning stoves, heaters isnt and never will be the answer because it isnt practical and therefore isnt the answer. ..... Education on correct way to use them is the way forward
condolences to the family
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In reply to Post #21
agree mate,
I was more referring to comments all over social media more than i was referring to this thread
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In reply to Post #16
Joss
I can see where you are coming from re whether commenting on this is appropriate at this time, but I really do think if it is not constantly brought to peoples attention these tragic events will be repeated.
Even today there is a thread by a new member asking about doing his first ever solo night session. Would he know about the danger if not brought to his attention? Maybe, maybe not. But at least if it’s out there it could make a difference. We have a few newer members at the moment and from their questions it shows they are new to the hobby so may not know how dangerous these stoves and heaters can be. Not that old hands can’t be caught out if they ‘ just use it for a few minutes’ even if they know the dangers and risk it ‘ just this once’
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We seem to going in cycles with this.
As any of the longtime Forum members will be able to recall we have a story of a death by carbon monoxide in a bivvy every few years. Everyone the states how dangerous stoves, heaters, even BBQ’s etc are and don’t ever use them, wear correct clothing, water bottles etc etc.
A year passes and we get to another winter and the threads start - “what’s the best bivvy heater” or “how to warm a bivvy in winter”. The wiser heads advise against it but as each year passes they are in the minority. More threads “ wanted Black Cat heater” or “new parabolic heater on eBay - any good?” Now anyone who advises against them is judged as old fart or killjoy.
A couple of years ago there was a youtube clip of an angler fishing with a wood burner in his bivvy  I presume he was a ‘known angler’ but it goes over my head as I don’t watch the cartoons on the tube. I queried this and took a few digs with people saying it’s perfectly safe because it had a chimney! If you trawl the web and look at how many deaths there are in normal houses through gas fires being faulty ( fires actually designed for house use)you’d be stunned. So a portable wood burner in a nylon sealed tent, without any certified checks on its chimney joints or door seal is OK!! OK extreme example I grant you but you can get my drift.
I’ll guarantee you that this year it will be a hot topic. Next year, year after, then it will start to fade and the queries for a heated bivvy will start again with people recommending ‘safe’ devices. We seem to be unable as a group of people to learn.
My heartfelt condolences to this young man’s family at what is probably the most tragic time of year for any bereavement.
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So sad. Another un necessary and avoidable death caused by a heater. As a previous post said, its too easy to doze off with the warmth provided.. Go equipped accordingly..or stay at home.
My condolences to his friends and family.
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In reply to Post #16
So sad, a young man with wife and 3 children. Tragic news. RIP stephen.
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So sad, doesn’t bare thinking about what his family are going through now.
Am i a hypocrite having used my cheap parabolic heater Friday night, as I have done the last so many winters?
Not sure what the awnser is really. Also kudos to the fella that actually tested the Cobb and heater in the bivvy. Grey area that is rarely addressed.
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In reply to Post #15
A terrible thing to happen, and condolences to his friends and family.
We can all knit pick about the reasons why and why not do something as dangerous yet appears to be so harmless, but i for one think it's not appropriate at this sad time
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In reply to Post #14
Proper bivvy heaters like seven oaks and similar have inbuild co protections, meaning they turn off if o2 level drops to much. Problem is when people use stoves, industrial heaters or even cobbs in their closed down bivvies. Should we than ban all stoves? For sure not but more should be done to educate people on dangers! Accidents do happen unfortunately in every aspect of lives.
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What a terrible thing to happen!
Take the right gear and if you still can’t handle it just stay at home it’s just not worth it, it’s never worth your life it’s a hobby
Last week Darryl peck actually put a video up on Facebook saying the stove was a game charger to warm you up, he had his door shut! He has taken it down now because ALOT of people was pulling him up on it and saying how dangerous it was!
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In reply to Post #12
That's a great idea and would probably save lives 👍
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Tragic.
In my youth when I didn’t know the dangers of them I used one without the door open. Now I don’t know how close to a problem I was but It wasn’t a good scenario although it was an indicator of the dangers of them to me. It was daytime in February time, I’d laid down but not to sleep just to chill but stared dozing off, I got all groggy and lightheaded and had to put my head out the door. I hadn’t fell Asleep but i nearly had and I wasn’t meant to. Gave me a banging headache after that.
Like everyone’s saying. Don’t go if you can’t take the proper stuff. And this day and age it’s easier than ever. We have affordable high performance thermal clothing. Heated jackets, heated blankets, Heated base layers and heated insoles for your shoes. My heater has been fully retired.
As a minimum all of these heaters should have a little timer on them. Such a simple solution.
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In reply to Post #1
Terrible news, tragic really 
Ban them, another “must have” item that’s fashionable that we don’t really need 
Far too easy to drop to sleep with one on, let’s face it a lot of the time we are cat napping. As mentioned a good base layer of thermals and a decent bag there is no need
When I used to fish winter nights it was a 5 minute blast of the stove when I got up whilst making a brew, that’s it. Put your day gear on, job done. There some great winter clothing options around now too puffa jackets etc.
Berghuas balaclava, highly recommend for nights
Mentioned it before, we once had to pack one lad up, brought hardly any gear, sat shivering to death. Use an old hold-all, keep it in the car and keep additional and spare clothes in it
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In reply to Post #8
How awful.
Bivvie heaters should be banned imo.
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Within the last week I've seen two popular carp anglers post on their social media pages videos of them using heaters in their bivvys.
They both did advise to using them for short periods of time and only when very well ventilated and to never fall asleep with them on.
It may sound silly but to anyone that ever does use one of these maybe make a rule to yourself to only using one when sitting up. ( In a well ventilated place )
Just as it can be so easy to drift off to sleep when laying down and getting cosy.
Personally i have the gas, kettle and stove just outside the door when making a brew and that's whilst fishing with an open fronted bivvy. Just a habit I got into.
Proper clothing and sleeping bag is definitely the best and safest option.
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Les Bowers
This is probably one of, if not, the most important posts I’ll ever make on here.
Tonight I found out a friend passed. He fell asleep whilst fishing. Unfortunately he fell asleep with heater on in the bivvy. He never woke 😢
Please please, as winter and the colder nights/days set in, ‘DONT’ have heaters on in the bivvy or any enclosed space without the door open. It only takes for you to fall asleep or even having it on too long, for a tragic accident to happen. I don’t want to hear of this happening to anyone else.
If you’re that cold, get in the sleeping bag with a hot water bottle or stay home. Don’t don’t don’t take chances with it.
Paul Bacon has put up some very informative videos on his Facebook of tests he did with a few different heaters in his bivvy and a carbon monoxide alarm. You’d be very very surprised how quickly you’d be overcome with the fumes!
I’m so gutted and sad that this has happened to someone I know. Such a kind and lovely bloke with a young family.
Please please please, take care whilst out on the bank. And keep that door wide open!!! X
Please share far and wide. If it saves one persons life, it’s done it’s job x
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In reply to Post #1
Such a shame hearing news like this I’m fishing right now till tomorrow morning(got here Friday afternoon) and would never dream of shutting door of my shelter if you’ve not got the right kit don’t go fishing.
A water bottle cost pence really,is it worth losing your life
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Such a waste of life and a life changing event for the whole family
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Savage news, and an easily avoidable situation. RIP to the fella.
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In reply to Post #1
tragic. but they are all over ebay, carbon monoxide is a known killer, but people are paying stupid prices for them, often twice the price of a decent thermal suit.
maybe thats why a well known brand discontinued them.
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In reply to Post #2
Seen les bowers and Nigel sharp mention it on Instagram. Young family man known by them both.
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In reply to Post #1
I can't see anything online
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Just read there’s been another bivvy heater death. Very sad situation. Wish people would learn. Either take the appropriate clothing and sleeping bag or stay home. It’s a hobby and is meant to be enjoyed. No one’s life is worth a carp
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