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Goose

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#11 20 Dec 2022 at 3.48pm

In reply to Post #7
Live hermit crab will always out fish peeler when the hounds are in down here. Peeler or muscle for bass on the right marks and Sandeel on others but I only bass fish on the fly for the last twenty plus years as is far more enjoyable. Broke my bass fly rod in September which I had owned since the early nineties and only recently replaced it.

ocelot

Posts: 1802

#10 15 Dec 2022 at 6.31pm

In reply to Post #9
https://www.fieldsportschannel.tv/tunaban/

Sorry can't do links 😖

Not looking so good for the sport fishing skippers and community. Although Farage is on the case so maybe the government and DEFRA will see sense.

Halfcentury

Posts: 1284

#9 13 Sept 2022 at 7.57am

In reply to Post #7
Good luck with the bluefin and threshers.

snapper1

Posts: 3101

#8 12 Sept 2022 at 10.16am

In reply to Post #7
Love sea fishing, I just chuck a worm out and hope, and I like big waters

Bornagaincarper

Posts: 107

#7 8 Sept 2022 at 10.07pm

In reply to Post #5
I'm on the East Anglian Coast, for much of the year the sea is thick with whiting. Not a target fish but providing plenty of food for other species. Most people trot out the line that whiting are a **** bait, but when there are millions in the sea around you it's daft not to fish with them. Match the hatch and all that.

My fishing is generally centred around smoothounds, thornbacks, bass and tope. On the right tides and the right marks the fishing can be spectacular. But like most fishing you have to all the pieces joined up including bait.

I speak to a lot of anglers who think that a bag of squid or a few lug is all they need and then say theres no fish if they blank. On my last smoothound trip, I had 17 fish over 4 rods, only one fish fell to squid the others on the going bait for the area. I have seen that bait take 20 fish to one angler, while a charter boat 100 yards away caught 3 between 8 anglers on the same tide.

Thornbacks are now catchable all year round, from dinner plate size up to 5-6lb but unless fishing the right tide, or part of it and with small fish or rag baits you wouldn't know they are there. I am convinced wind farms are helping by providing no go nursery areas, so the juvenile fish aren't getting chewed up by beam trawlers. There are 20lb blonde rays and spurdogs, but they are mark specific and short window, miss that because of weather or work and it might be a year before another chance.

Most reefs and breakwaters are now producing wrasse, bream and a variety of mini species, but they won't be caught on a 4/0 and a lump lug, whip out the drop shot and all of a sudden, its dozen+ fish per day.

Sea fishing requires far more watercraft than any other fishing I have ever done, some marks only worth fishing for an hour or two on just a handful of tides a month. Miss them and the sea seams empty (or full of whiting). Then you have to be on the right bait, no point fishing worm when the crabs are moulting, but you have to have the crab, they have windows of availability, and everyone wants them at the same time. I might have 200 in my freezer at some points, so I have them ready for the time when I really need them.

But when you get it right and bag up on fish that you have found in millions of acres of water and have swam 100's miles to get there, the feeling is really hard to beat.

As for the bigger stuff I am looking for, I'll keep that to myself for now, but the East Coast has history of some very big fish, conditions are possibly now right for history to repeat itself.

wandle1

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#6 7 Sept 2022 at 11.46pm

There's been a bit of resurrection of interest in sea angling in my area,was a lot of carpers locally who traditionally sea fished..now the tide is changing..!...this is possibly due to how expensive carping has got compared to the ratio of available waters ,that previously were accessible..

When younger ,was spoilt,go out front door salmon n trout,within 2 minutes s,(the river actually ran under our cottage)

Another short walk and it's Lrf heaven ,off the rocks ,etc,etc...

Time for a change ,big blue pond behind me ,which is free to fish and a challenge always..

vossy1

Posts: 5125

#5 5 Sept 2022 at 10.59am

In reply to Post #4
What are you targeting when you go out (if you want to say)?

I watch a lot of YouTube videos re shore fishing, got to say if there are plenty of fish out there its not being reflected on the shore, its terrible :-(

Just wish I had any form of sea legs, I'd love to give sea fishing a proper go.

Bornagaincarper

Posts: 107

#4 1 Sept 2022 at 6.00pm

In reply to Post #3
Have a look at the CHART program thats running with ABFT. It all catch and release sport fishing wise. No landing quota in this country..

I have 2 days booked soon.

As for the rarer uk sharks, Mako's already here, and more than one knowledgeable person say they have seen other headlines grabbing species. The big threshers seam to be more regularly caught as well.

I invested in a boat last year capable of exploring for different species, contrary to what media will.have you believe, the seas around the UK still.have plenty of fish biomass that attracts big predators and with warming seas extending ranges its a great time to be out there.

There are at least 5 species capable of 400lb plus to UK recreational boats

vossy1

Posts: 5125

#3 1 Sept 2022 at 2.46pm

In reply to Post #1
I read a article about the Tuna a while back, more and more common sightings, and the next line, it's already been asked what quotas should be applied

I already wonder how many are by catch and tbh given the commercialism of European waters with the supertrawlers etc, I wonder how these species can possibly make a come back.

Wish I coud be more upbeat!

mark1009

Posts: 4252

#2 1 Sept 2022 at 1.20am

In reply to Post #1
With the price of diesel being what it is, it's going to be a rich mans hobby.

ocelot

Posts: 1802

#1 31 Aug 2022 at 10.52pm

With the strong run of Atlantic Bluefin tuna in the S,SW and S Wales looking like it's going to be seasonal going forward. Film of a Broadbill Swordfish sunning after it's night time feed off the IOM. It can only be a matter of time before White sharks, Mako, Oceanic White tip etc follow surely. Blue Marlin a possibility off Penzance/St Ives in a couple of years 🤔.
I personally see coastal angling in the UK being the next boom sector


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