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Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #130 19 May 2022 at 9.45pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #127
There’s a limit to that though to be fair, putting it out there I have no doubt over his bait credentials, but prices WILL increase from him soon there’s no two ways about it, of tge very few times I’ve spoken to him he seems to be brimming with integrity so he would be cutting anything but costs WILL be increasing. And rightly so.

Milks have gone up at least 50% and will continue to do so. As will egg products, fishmeal due for another increase, and this is all just this year, any bait formulated more than ten years ago will be at least 25% more expensive to produce now with the same ingredients.

And for the record and yes I’m bias anglers don’t realise we also need to make a living.
Clobersauraus
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Clobersauraus
   Old Thread  #129 19 May 2022 at 8.42pm    Login    Register
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But in all business ventures you have static costs and variable costs… rent, etc is the same every month regardless of how much product you sell, where as material costs are dependant on the amount you sell.

So if you sell 2000kg a week your rental costs are 2000 a week that’s a pound per kg….

Also electricity etc, granted more bait more machines etc running higher costs, but things like lighting etc will be the same costs every month. There lots of static monthly costs that work in the larger companies advantage…. They can also sell at a lower profit margin, cos the volume boosts there profits…

Stack it high and sell it as cheap as possible, we’ve all heard that before.
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #128 19 May 2022 at 5.51pm    Login    Register
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Huge loyal customer base all over Europe, probably the most consistent bait maker ever and there bait has been catching fish rather than anglers for a very long time now.
Greekskii
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Greekskii
   Old Thread  #127 19 May 2022 at 5.09pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #122
Like you said, you don’t really know what they are doing so who knows. Clearly selling enough to be able to keep prices down for customers and make enough to be comfortable. Same can’t be said of a majority of other firms. Whatever they are doing is working.
snapper1
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snapper1
   Old Thread  #126 19 May 2022 at 3.48pm    Login    Register
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🙂
bluebeat13
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   Old Thread  #125 19 May 2022 at 2.32pm    Login    Register
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I was complementing your relationship?!
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #124 19 May 2022 at 2.26pm    Login    Register
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Ah the trolls back 😂 I pay delivery like everyone else 😉
bluebeat13
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   Old Thread  #123 19 May 2022 at 2.11pm    Login    Register
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They must really like you if they are selling you less and using 4 times as much diesel delivering it to you.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #122 19 May 2022 at 2.07pm    Login    Register
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Essential aren’t selling metric tonnes a day so aren’t buying tens of tones of each ingredient. There isn’t a lot of movement ton items from sack to tone price less than a tenner a bag on high spec milks but I’m fortunate to get the tonne price on a lot. Pretty much because I buy as much but physically cannot store it, most people get month deliveries from suppliers I get one to two a week. But of say, 750kg of ingredient as opposed to 5 tonne. Some people like me lol
Greekskii
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Greekskii
   Old Thread  #121 19 May 2022 at 1.34pm    Login    Register
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more bait you sell the easier it is to lower price points and still retain profit. If someone has to make a living off selling 20kg a week they need to sell at a higher price than someone making a living from selling 200kg a week.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #120 19 May 2022 at 1.07pm    Login    Register
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Some suppliers don’t.
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #119 19 May 2022 at 9.14am    Login    Register
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There are no level playing feilds in business, suppliers tell lies. Not as bad as it used to. Once had a trade account with Travis but never used it as most materials could be bought from wicks who are owned by Travis for a quarter of the price.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #118 19 May 2022 at 0.35am    Login    Register
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We buy from the same suppliers for a lot of bulk ingredients, I’m not sure what he’s making a day but essential aren’t considered a very large company compared to some, there won’t be a lot of cost different in ingredient as I get time prices on the sack because some people like me 😂
Frenzy
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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #117 18 May 2022 at 8.42pm    Login    Register
In reply to Post #115
Volume
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #116 18 May 2022 at 8.21pm    Login    Register
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Don't think he supplies any shops now, think he has a huge very loyal customer base. When I used b5 a guy I met was buying it from a shop at trade plus 10% Mark up for shop but was buying a few hundred kg at a time shared between friends. I'm not using it now but I know he still buys large quantities direct.
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