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In reply to Post #18
Somebody once told me that Techni spice was a combination of sweet nutraspice and spice cajouser which I have used the latter with good success, considering the cajouser was black like tar I doubt it, techni spice is clear and the sweet nutraspice used to separate, again the techni spice does not, as I am aware. Sure Ken can confirm?
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In reply to Post #1
I’m biased, but I don’t believe you will get better than Bait Bros for a traditional spiced EA flavour.
Can also tweak flavours to your specification.
Happy to help via PM.
Sam
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In reply to Post #1
Just lob a handcraft hookbaits sting out. I think its bunspice and aniseed.
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In reply to Post #21
Condensed milk and cinnamon
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over the last few seasons I have played around quite a lot with certain flavour profiles in single hookbaits. The most successful one I have found was premier baits indian spice.
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In reply to Post #18
Smells like Christmas cake to me.
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In reply to Post #18
A lingering spicy spice smell 
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In reply to Post #17
Ken, is techni spice a sweet spice or a spicy spice smell ?
I know your not involved with the latest Nutrabaits set up, but do you think your tried and tested version of the techni spice is the same as the current available version do you know ?
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I have used several spice attractors in my time and IMHO nothing comes close to Nutrabaits Techni Spice. This is the same blend that is used in their excellent Techni Spice Shelfies, which is probably the best winter time shelf life bait I have ever used. It truly is a marvellous attractor; not cheap but worth every penny.
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In reply to Post #14
I 100 percent believe that no flavour alone is going to turn you into a mega hauler and that you need more substance behind a bait long term.
Definitely agree with this, to be consistently successful, especially long term, a bait needs much more than a flavour not matter how good it might be. But for me using one of the proven flavours provides or at least enhances the initial attraction of a bait, after that taste and possibly nutrition extends the life of a bait, sometimes indefinitely.
But one thing I would say, as an amateur bait maker, over many years I have caught a lot of carp on single hookbaits, and I know this is your business so I'm trying to be tactful here, but despite trying lots of non flavour type additives and trying well know manufacturers product's (not yours admitttingly) I cannot find or make a single hookbait that produces more bites than my own overflavoured baits. Single baits are relying on attraction only and nothing I have used beats a good flavour in this situation.
Interesting, well to me at least, they don't work as well over bait.
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In reply to Post #1
There are a lot of people on here you have way more knowledge than me when it comes to bait ...but i did have a dabble at baitmaking in the early 2000's after being given a bottle of something by a proffessional flavourist to have a play with   nobody else was using it to according to the flavourist
for 2 seasons it took apart every lake in oxon and was used by people to get bait deals with other companys saying all fish were caught on their bait   
I called it OLA365 but it was Fenugreek Oleoresin and Sqid n Octopus then the cat was out of the bag and every man and his dog were using it
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In reply to Post #13
I will kind of echo that. I have definitely used some flavours that appear to be useless and others that seem to really work
I can remember using an hold hutchy flavour that smelt a bit like soap and we made it into a bird food boilie in the early 90s. Completely useless!
We then changed to a fruit flavour and added sweetners and it worked much better.
Looking back with an open mind, did the flavour make the difference, did the sweetener, who knows.
The soapy smelling flavour was rated by some of the locals back then but i seemed to struggle with it.
Tutti, it works
Aniseed it works
Certain creams work
Squid works
But many others do just not seem as good
I 100 percent believe that no flavour alone is going to turn you into a mega hauler and that you need more substance behind a bait long term. John baker can probably answer more in depth about flavours but I’d certainly never just rely on them
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In reply to Post #6
Years ago I experimented a lot with various flavours. What I found was that some flavours were a waste of time and produced very little while other flavours produced lots of fish over and over again. Leaving out the flavour altogether produced very little but did produce the odd run.
The basemix was a fairly basic mix of Clo birdfood, Semo and a small amount of milk protein and brewers yeast. My sessions would be short either days or a night rarely both and the waters quite heavily stocked.
Make of it what you will, but I was and still am convinced that a good flavour on its own will attract carp, or perhaps more correctly provokes them to pick up our boilies. Note I said a good flavour as I have already said many did not provoke a response or very little of one.
Put one of those good flavours in a quality boilie and you have a bait that carp will take from the off and will continue to take. Take the flavour out of a good bait and yes it will catch but as quick and as many as it would with the flavour present.. not in my experience.
And for the original question re spice flavour, unfortunately I didn't try many and ultraspice was the only one I found to be really effective.
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In reply to Post #10
You will of course find plenty of the same chemicals in "flavours" as you find in essential oils and spices.
I don't believe that the fish can sense if those chemicals come from a laboratory or if they are isolated from a plant.
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In reply to Post #10
But not all “flavours” are cheap chemically ones. Would you call Secret Agent (for example) a flavour? Chocolate Malt? Maple Cream? They may have smelled, but their success wasn’t because they smelt to us of whatever they smelt of. And would a bait been better without them?
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