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In reply to Post #59
Don’t worry about it, when they bring the untrained Europeans over there won’t be as many petrol stations anyway, I’m sure they will blow a few up, OK boss  
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Rubbish here. South London Bexley. I'm a driving instructor
Pass petrol garages round here all day. Most empty or a big queue. Got some last Wednesday at 3am.
Hopefully not so difficult tonight.
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In reply to Post #57
Filled up and drove from Kent to Warwick stopped at services by Warwick and put £20 no queues. Spent 6 days holiday with Mrs and then drove back and just put £21 in. No queues at Warwick and no queue down here. Spoke to the the staff at both and Warwick said no problem with fuel and in Kent it has slowed down considerably. Not a panic buyer but always keep car over 3/4 full!
Travelling on motorways there and back and set cruise control at 70 both ways and was almost constantly at this speed passing loads of cars doing less than this and very few passed me. It was almost like a different driving experience, almost enjoyable this won't last long!
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Taunton services has loads if anyone needs it lol
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In reply to Post #55
I thought I was imagining it when I went on the M20 yesterday, people doing 60-70. Normally it doesn't matter how fast you go there's always someone else that wants to go faster.
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Anyone also noticed how slow people are driving now too? Around our way used to be a race circuit but now it’s full of ‘Sunday drivers’. I find it quite nice as life needs to slow down a little.
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In reply to Post #53
Cobham and clacket lane had no fuel today. More garages in London had fuel and reasonable queues.
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In reply to Post #52
I’m In Hertfordshire so will be going m4
Hopefully a couple of days will sort the mess out now the army are involved
Eco mode works well though lol
Gotta go to Stoke on Thursday
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In reply to Post #51
Not sure where you are mate, but I got a full tank of diesel at Cobham services between junctions 9-10
on the M25 yesterday. No restrictions, only queued for five mins and that’s Shell. Access from both sides of M25.
Ten garages around SE London I tried first were all empty.
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In reply to Post #50
Cheers
That kind of takes a weight off
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In reply to Post #49
My mate went do Devon over the weekend as his aunt has a hotel there and he said that there were no issues with fuel other than they were limiting how much you could take. I think you will be fine but you may have to visit a few different stations to fill up and get home 👍
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I have to travel to collumton in Devon tomorrow have enough to get there but will be tight getting home lol
I need diesel and preferably a shell garage so I can use my fuel card… 
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NWO and Covid causing the issues innit...... 
Where I live it’s either we have petrol but no diesel or vice versa!
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Two thirds of all constituencies voted leave. I don't think Farage held sway over two thirds of the country do you?
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#46 4 Oct 2021 at 11.54am | | | |
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Your petrol station is talking sense, it will never catch on here in Kent. 
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In reply to Post #44
That's what the voting showed too to be fair
I was thinking more about farage country.
All settled down up here. My local petrol station put signs up early on asking people to just take £30 and its not run short yet
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In reply to Post #41
London hardly has any fuel, it’s being a nightmare for my vans, we’re having to make sure we’ve got fuel before heading into town.
FWIW, everyone I know in London was against brexit.
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#43 3 Oct 2021 at 11.49pm | | | |
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No it was just shoddily built. Probably those pesky foreigners...
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#42 3 Oct 2021 at 11.26pm | | | |
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Didn't the Red wall fall due to Brexit?
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#41 3 Oct 2021 at 11.02pm | | | |
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Of course ...
Apparently the major issues are in the south east now. Brexitland.. karma is a bitch eh?
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https://youtu.be/x8k8k1Mia2I
Driver shortages from the horses mouth.
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In reply to Post #38
We clearly need to build a massive wall to cower behind Spinbowlet 
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In reply to Post #37
You're more confused than Scooby Do, yep all those turning up on the Kent coast have passport's 🤣🤣 last time I looked France was in the EU so how did they manage entry into the EU?
Whats the US got to do with it😂 you do know despite having the word States in it it is just one country?
Haven't qued once my friend, I have a new German hybrid, delivered on time etc despite this crippling Brexit 😂😂
Ref Labour Party, not many are these days 😂😂
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Blimey? Have you been queuing too long for fuel?
You're wrong about most of that .. the EU requires travellers from OUTSIDE it to have a passport to get in ... but not for citizens WITHIN it to move about. Like the USA .. do you understand?
The flight cuts have been IN THE LAST FEW DAYS ... that's why I wrote 'in the last few days'
And I'm not a member of the Labour Party.
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In reply to Post #35
Stand down the Walmington on Sea defence brigade. The war on conservative Islam is chip shop paper wrapping since the Christian armies legged it. At least this time more got out than just Surgeon Brydon. It's all about these pesky Chinese now. Tally Ho 
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In reply to Post #32
What a load of rubbish. The use of passports is a good thing every other country in the world requires one for entry so it can't be a problem can it? Guess what the EU doesn't and hasn't a clue how many terrorists and extremists are 8nside it's borders and guess what it's the EU that has suffered the most terrorist attacks in recent years because of this but you put your Lefty spin on it to suit your end.
Ref Easy Jet, nothing to do with Covid then and people in general not wishing to travel overseas? Let's add into the mix that companies had employees travelling to different places for meetings that now use Teams etc but don't let that get in the way of a good Left Wing spun lie .
As already stated UK businesses are still full of Europeans, some left because of Covid and to be closer to family some have left and will leave because they have made the money they came to make. If you hang around in Lefty places like Twitter or the Labour Party you start believing all the bull**** they spout and you become part of the problem
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#34 3 Oct 2021 at 12.30pm | | | |
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FFS sake jon its not a B issue there is a shortfall of 120,000 lorry drivers in Poland, Belgium is 5,000 short and i believe its around 400,000 for the whole of the EU. Where have they gone probably to do better paid jobs that don't involve overnight sleeping in cabs and washing in buckets of water or staying in **** hotels and using motorway facilities.
I started work 3 months ago in a larger supermarket warehouse and as a Brit am still in the minority. The vast majority of the workforce is still young eastern europeans. The lazy ****s in this country don't want to work in these jobs because its minimum wage and hard work. Their entitlement of going to Uni to study and the promise of high flying jobs or becoming influencers is still what some aspire to. I walk an average of 8 miles per 8 hour shift and have a rate to work to, its 3pm till 11pm with the option of extra hours doesnt appeal to youngsters who have their social life to live up to. I'm 58 and my generation are fast approaching retirement or like me some have already retired, we grew up and left school where the unemployment rate was 1 in 10 (wasn't there a song about that :0 ) A different attitude is leaving the job market and it is not being filled with the same attitude towards having or needing to work hard!
Why would anyone want to do this job or be a lorry driver with **** conditions. Its Responsibility, Commitments and Pride but that is fast waining from this country as handouts, dole and freebies are an easier choice for many. All this I cant find a job or have the skill set to work is ********. i didn't need a skill set, exam results to do this job just have an attitude to work hard and put myself out there. There are still jobs available in this warehouse but for some reason the locals would rather sit on their arses and whinge about the state of the country!
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#33 3 Oct 2021 at 12.30pm | | | |
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I’ve just filled my car up with sovereignty.
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#32 3 Oct 2021 at 11.39am | | | |
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It hasn't got much attention in the press, but on Thursday the govt brought in a rule stopping EU citizens entering the UK using their EU ID card. They need a passport now. 200 million EU citizens don't have a passport, as you can travel around the EU on an identity card. As well as a kick in the nuts for British tourism - cheap weekend away travellers will just go somewhere else within the EU (in the last couple of days Easyjet have cut more than half of their flights on the route I use .. coincidence maybe?) it will be just another reason for European drivers to stay put.
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In reply to Post #30
I would imagine they'll get a basic wage but the extras and add ons will be lucrative.
Otherwise as you say why would they come?
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#30 2 Oct 2021 at 11.45pm | | | |
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You have to love the arrogance of the government thinking that EU drivers have been sitting at home waiting for Boris to call and say 'please come and help us out as we're a bit stuck. By the way, it's just til Christmas so the British public can get their stuff and feel happy. I'm getting the turkey sorted for them too. Oh and we'll still pay you less than the British drivers buts that ok isn't it? Tally ho chaps!'
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#29 2 Oct 2021 at 10.48pm | | | |
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But that’s the point, everyone deserves more so you put wages up but what good is earning more if everything costs more. 10% pay rise to counteract 20% cost increase equals being 10% worse off than you were before.
I hope the cost of things go down but in a capitalist economy that thrives on greed and has survived on exploitation of cheap imported labour for far too long, once those prices are up there, I can’t see them tailing off to previous levels.
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#28 2 Oct 2021 at 10.46pm | | | |
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Without sounding like a flash ****. These price increases won’t affect me, but it will make a difference to the bloke driving lorry’s who can now earn a decent wage
We are all happy getting stuff cheap but there’s a knock on effect, and now it’s payback time literally and rightly so IMO
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#27 2 Oct 2021 at 10.35pm | | | |
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I do believe hard working guys deserve a fair wage. You say where does the money come from, but so do they.
All the experts expect inflation to settle down come spring. Hope so, in my business we’ve put prices up by 40% - but expect to reduce them soon hopefully
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#26 2 Oct 2021 at 10.13pm | | | |
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It’s all well and good saying up wages but where does that money come from?
It’s directly out of our pockets, I heard an interview earlier this week where they said this inflation is transitional. Is it ****, printers printing money like it’s going out of fashion, supply and demand causing price increases, wages going up.
Real world inflation is well over 10%, forget 4% officially quoted, its only the interest rates flagging behind to avoid absolute chaos but they can’t keep kicking the can down the road forever.
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#25 2 Oct 2021 at 10.03pm | | | |
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There was a video diary of a trucker doing the rounds. It’s lot an easy job
But it’s not brexit related
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As Boris said today, it's a good thing, it's driving up wages that were previously supressed by cheap immigraion.
We are an expensive country to live in and families need proper living wages.
HGV drivers may now be able to afford going carp fishing 
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In reply to Post #22
To be fair, not the best job if you are stopping out doing overnights but it pays well, always has. I know a lot of lorry drivers, there are pros and cons, stressful too, saying that, a lot of jobs are
Get on the tankers and that’s where the money is, additional hazards or course but that comes with the salary
Sat on your arse doing nothing or earning some serious coin is a no brainier for me, if you can be bothered of course 
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I thought it was only us that suffered from brexit. Or maybe it isn’t brexit related at all
https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/187453/belgium-is-looking-for-5000-lorry-drivers-to-keep-shop-shelves-filled/
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In reply to Post #19
Getting a job driving fuel tankers for the companies that supply filling stations was always highly sought after and dead man's shoes to get in. It was very well paid and working conditions and pensions were very good. These supposed supply issues are manufactured to soften the public ready for the price hikes to come.
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In reply to Post #19
You are right 
Sad situation really, very
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In reply to Post #18
This isn’t about voting to leave the EU causing it, as scozza rightly said below, we have a country full of lazy ****s.
I specialise in Velux windows, Velux are having supply issues because the warehouse staff were all Eastern European, because of covid they all went home to be with their families and because of brexit can’t get back. Now, in the warehouse, despite there being loads of jobs available for £10ph, they can’t fill them because the English don’t want to do the graft. That is a fact, I’m feeling the supply issues because of it.
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In reply to Post #17
were driven by people who were employed to do that?
Bit of a misconception there. You are on about a time when people wanted to work, why would they want to be cleaners, waiters and lorry drivers, it’s below them (not that they have the skills or right attitude). What a mess, what a shower of ****. Foreign lorry drivers go home and we are ****ed, embarrassing really?
**** all the lazy ****s off abroad, bring back foreigners
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Jon didn't. He's still in the EU
Could be argued that the rest of did though...
Remember when the army did being the army and fuel lorries and ambulances were driven by people who were employed to do that?
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In reply to Post #13
You lost mate
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In reply to Post #13
Wasn't aware of any vote this, think you must have some odd dreams.
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In reply to Post #12
I'm hoping a spark sets the stockpiled bog rolls up in flames and blows the stockpiled petrol up
Wouldn’t that be nice
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Sounds a real pain.
Does knowing that it's what 52% voted for make it easier to accept?
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#12 2 Oct 2021 at 11.56am | | | |
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I'm hoping a spark sets the stockpiled bog rolls up in flames and blows the stockpiled petrol up 
So many ****s topping the tank up with a few litres and filling gerry cans up
All my local supermarkets have forecourts, gotta sit in the fuel queue for an hour to get to the car park 
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#11 2 Oct 2021 at 10.15am | | | |
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No different to most things in life, selfish ****s and panic buying go had in hand 
Was at a petrol station the other day, **** in front of me filled his car up and two massive green army type gerry cans, what a ****er ✊💦💦
And as for local stations banging 10p a litre on, stop using them, the greedy ****s, one near me I have not used it for years for that reason
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#10 2 Oct 2021 at 10.11am | | | |
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Don't say that Jon, I have to try and fill up tomorrow, otherwise I will not be going angling next week. I was alright last week so have not needed to go near a garage. I need to now though. I was hoping it would be over by now.
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Spent an hour this morning from 5am waiting for £100 of diesel, the bloke in front put a tenner in a BMW... a ****ing tenner
was about £1.47 a litre too the ****s.
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In reply to Post #7
I drove from tower bridge road right back to West Sussex before finding a station with fuel yesterday, it was carnage on the way to work, took me three and a half hours because of idiots gridlocking roads anywhere near a forecourt with fuel.
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Be sure to avoid south, east and north London as well as Essex. The ****s outnumber the litres of fuel and available road surface. Ideal if you want a fist fight or a dent in your bodywork
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In reply to Post #4
Everywhere I’ve come across has imposed a £30 limit on fuel, all it is doing is making it seem like a rationing of fuel and also allowing people to keep topping up their tanks. More people on the forecourts again adds fuel to the fire of panic buying.
Every forecourt has an attendant guiding traffic to pumps so they need to either insist on checking the fuel gauge or imposing a minimum of £40/50 to refuel, it will stop all the idiots who only do school and shop runs constantly filling their tanks. Whilst peoples tanks are being run down before they can fill up again, it’ll allow the tankers to catch up and get more stations refuelled. At the moment, as soon as somewhere has fuel delivered, everyone flocks there and it’s empty within a few hours!
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In reply to Post #4
It's been amusing listening to the goons blaming 'the media' for the shortages and panic buying...
I must have missed those news reports that said 'quick! Go and be a selfish ***** and buy all the petrol you can while key workers are at work' ...
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In reply to Post #3
Exactly Jon. So the longer it goes on the harder it is to
Once again blame the public. Must be another failure of Govt.
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In reply to Post #2
Great news, thanks.
I'm surprised it's gone on so long, surely once the folk who used to drive around with a quarter of a tank have filled up and are now going round 3/4 full, the weekly consumption is the same, no?
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In reply to Post #1
I live twenty minutes from gatwick. Pease pottage services have nearly had fuel the whole time, I haven’t struggled to get fuel, just have to allow an hour.
There’s a Facebook page called fuel- West Sussex where people are posting updates as to which stations have fuel.
It should all even itself out soon enough.
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Are things ok now, or have 'the MSM' been told not to report trouble?
I want to visit the UK soon, but, when leaving, driving round in a hire car near Gatwick looking to fill up with a flight to catch wouldn't be much fun with queues everywhere.
What's the situation?
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